Corbyn announces Your Party

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His new political party with Zarah Sultana.

Except it doesn't appear to even have a name and now Zarah Sultana is having to go around twitter correcting journalists saying it's not called Your Party, while not actually clarifying what it is called.

I'm sure it will be extremely well organised.

@Alexandra2001 'There is not enough money to make a wonderful world for everyone.'
Sorry but this is categorically untrue. The 1% who own more money than they or their kids could ever spend won't give it up though.

All that needs to be done is to revalue the higher bands and keep the lower ones as they are.

A £2m house should pay about 4x what a 500k house should pay... and over time, a 500k one pays 2x what a 250k pays, which can be done by revaluing the A, B bands.

You don't have any answers but are quite happy to band about scare stories like "State Pension will be reduced and pension pots taxed....any day now" without a shred of evidence that this will happen & when Lab have committed to the Triple Lock..... so there will be no cuts to state pension, the opposite is true, it will keep going up above or equal to inflation.

Why do people on the right keep pushing lies, scaring some people, Have you no pride in the country and just want to trash everything ?

You re quoting the wrong poster, that was @mumda

I agree with you, plenty of money in the UK and off shored.

@Alexandra2001

Why do people on the right keep pushing lies, scaring some people, Have you no pride in the country and just want to trash everything ?

They're trying to create fear and panic to kettle people towards them. I keep seeing scaremongering about the UK being bankrupt, it's lawless, it's overrun with immigrants, it's full of gangs, in five years it will be an unrecognisable caphiliate and only a workshy spiv and his teenage minions can save us.

Yep and the right wing press keep spinning the lies that the UK is a paradise for migrants.... of course the migrants read about all of this and want to come here....

What’s relevance is his age? Have you considered you are ageist?

Fascinating that in my post about his inability to see or deal with antisemitism, the cantankerous stubborn attitude, the ridiculous position on Russia, that's the word that you objected to.

I guess you must accept the rest.

A £2m house should pay about 4x what a 500k house should pay... and over time, a 500k one pays 2x what a 250k pays, which can be done by revaluing the A, B bands

Why should someone in Surrey pay 4 times as much as someone in Yorkshire though. OK, a £2m house might be occupied by someone with decent wealth, but not a £1m house.

A cantankerous stubborn attitude towards the Israeli government is exactly what we need right now tbh. It's working pretty well for Macron.

Pity he didn't adopt that attitude towards antisemitism in his own party, eh?

The UK has bigger problems than antisemitism at the moment.

It was ok for Corbyn to ignore issues of antisemitism in his own party in 2017 because in 2025 there would be bigger problems to deal with? I'm not sure I follow.

I don't think anyone considering voting for Corbyn will care about what he did in 2017. I'd imagine he will get a lot of support. Obviously you dont need to vote for his party, others are available.

Sorry!!

Well no, I don't think that people who didn't care about antisemitism in 2017 will care about it now either. That's not really a positive.

I wonder if you'd be so blasé if it were racism against any other group though.

But do you recognise the language you are using is ageist? You seem to be pretty blasé about it.

What is the party actually going to be called?

I apologise for describing a 76 year old male as an old man.

Now, what about the fact that he denied that there was an issue with antisemitism in his Labour party to the point where it led to him being kicked out of the party?

Or the fact that he blamed NATO for Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Or that he suggested that Assad didn't gas his own people - maybe they gassed themselves. And that he wanted Russia to investigate the Salisbury Novichok to tell us whether it was them behind the poisonings or not.

We could also talk about the time that he was no-confidenced by his own MPs but in a very cantankerous and stubborn way refused to step down and then led that party to disastrous defeat against Boris Johnson.

Well the bin strike esp in Birmingham is interesting, bc it stems from an equal pay claim that found that councils, with the connivance of unions, had persistently been overpaying BinMen bc "male" jobs were seen as more deserving and worthy than the "women's" jobs like care work or catering, that tribunals found were actually of equal skill levels.

As far back as 2012, BinMen (I used that term pointedly ) could take home salaries with bonuses of upto £50k (in 2012), when catering and care workers were busting Their guts to make £12k

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/may/01/stefan-cross-female-pay-birmingham

Birmingham could of course raise catering staff and care workers wages and they have iirc. But they also need to equalise with streamlining refuse collecting job wages. Hence the strike hoo haa.

Either way, of course, Brum faces bankruptcy BC they now have to pay women a decent wage. Which tells you how undervalued female labour is, even by unions meant to fucking defend them

As far back as 2012, BinMen (I used that term pointedly ) could take home salaries with bonuses of upto £50k (in 2012), when catering and care workers were busting Their guts to make £12k
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/may/01/stefan-cross-female-pay-birmingham

That article doesn't say that bin men were able to take home £50k. It says:

In the male-dominated industries, the men were by and large paid bonuses for everything from productivity to turning up for work. In the female industries (cleaning, caring, admin) these bonuses were by and large unheard of. Which meant that with overtime and bonuses some men were earning more than £50,000, while women on the same level earned £12,000.

It doesn't specify which men, in which roles, could reach that figure.

Are people still believing the Corbyn antisemitism that was a tactic of lies to get him out of the party?

Or maybe he was against the bombing of children and genocide and the media spun that for their own advantage.

Meanwhile Starmer continues to arm Israel and failed to condemn the bombings and withholding of aid and Corbyn is publicly against this. Protesting the genocide results in arrests of peaceful teachers and priests under this government.

Deflection and failure to acknowledge the problems with Corbyn.

Besides, it's not true either.

Fully expecting his new party to have issues with antisemitism too, given the defence of it here.