Corbyn announces Your Party

[noblegiraffe]

His new political party with Zarah Sultana.

Except it doesn't appear to even have a name and now Zarah Sultana is having to go around twitter correcting journalists saying it's not called Your Party, while not actually clarifying what it is called.

I'm sure it will be extremely well organised.

Mate, it's a cartoon.

Is it? Thanks, I had no idea. (edited to add that’s sarcasm because I know how MN posters purposefully misread tones of posts).

Its spreading misinformation, again.

Ah, so it's misinformation.

It isn't time for bold, decisive leadership?

Or the party name isn't to follow? It will never have a name?

OK, OK, I think we get it. @noblegiraffe

You don't think that Jeremy Corbyn is suitable as a party leader, and certainly should not be prime minister. I'm sure you heaved a sigh of relief Dec 12 2019.

So you don't like the guy.

Imagine it were someone you liked, I dunno, say George Clooney, and he had exactly the same political stance as Corbyn. How would you feel then ? Someone else, but with Corbyns politics?

Tell me your views on his politics. Please

We obviously can’t have any party that might actually tackle issues talked about on here. It’s much better to just keep complaining about not being able to get a GP appointment, waiting hours at A&E, poor funding for our children’s education and being unable to get an NHS dentist.

But no, let’s shoot down any politicians trying to actually help people and keep supporting those making our lives worse.

Sure. Is this meant to be hard?

Anti-West stance
Corbyn hates the West. He will automatically side with any country that also hates the West and that means he would be disastrous for the defence of the country. As I have posted before, this led to him suggesting that Assad gassed his own people, that we should allow Russia to investigate whether they were behind the novichok poisoning in Salisbury, and he blamed NATO for Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Iran is anti-west, so of course Corbyn has made several appearances on Iranian government TV.

Hanging out with terrorists
His rabidly Anti-West stance means that Corbyn spends a lot of time in the company of undesirables. Famously spent a lot of time with the IRA (a file opened on him by MI5 as a potential threat to national security), inviting two people who had been in prison for IRA-related offences to the House of Commons just after the Brighton bombings. Who else did he invite to the House of Commons? His "friends" in Hamas and Hezbollah.
Here he is saying that the British government labelling Hamas as terrorists would be a big historical mistake because Hamas are just working for peace in the region https://x.com/timescorbyn/status/1724186336922386655?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g
Post October 7th, who does it appear was making a big mistake with that statement? Not Corbyn of course- he was asked by Piers Morgan to label Hamas as terrorists and he refused https://x.com/piersmorgan/status/1724169911415504901?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

That's because the hard left when challenged dig in

Brexit
Anti-West Corbyn is obviously not a fan of the EU. Perhaps that was why he made such a balls-up of Brexit policy post referendum that contributed to the election defeat against Boris Johnson who at least had a clear view. https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyns-changing-brexit-stance

Corbyn before Party
Post-Brexit referendum he lost a no-confidence vote of his own MPs by 172-40. Did he resign, having lost the confidence of his colleagues? Of course not. He then led Labour to an election defeat against Theresa May. Did he then resign? No, he then led Labour to a crushing election defeat against Boris Johnson. Could a different leader with a strong stance on Brexit have taken on Johnson? Possibly. They could hardly have done worse (Labour's worst electoral defeat since 1935) - Corbyn was named as a big problem for Labour by many voters. Did he then resign? No, he said he wanted to stay on during a period of reflection. What a tit.

Blindspot for antisemitism
Antisemtism was a huge problem in the Labour Party under Corbyn and was poorly dealt with. Corbyn denied this, and the 130 page report detailing it. The famous anti-racist campaigner didn't support Luciana Berger, one of his own MPs who was the victim of vicious antisemitic attacks. People rightly criticise Starmer for his treatment of Rosie Duffield, but the template for the handling of Duffield was Luciana Berger. This blindspot for antisemitism is a direct consequence of his anti-West stance (which is of course automatically anti-Israel) which leads him to be around so many actively open antisemites (e.g. Hamas) that he just doesn't recognise it as a problem.

I could go on, but I think if you transplanted all of the above onto George Clooney I would still not vote for him.

How can Corbyn tackle issues when he can't win elections? He had two general elections as the Labour leader and lost both. A large portion of his own party rebelled against him. He was electoral poison, many people liked his policies but didn't like Corbyn. So why will him setting up a new party produce different results? He needs to go away.

The whole point of this party is to be member driven and not about the leader. The only reason it’s Corbyn is because no other politician is interested in being part of a party that’ll actually help people.

Instead of saying the party will be unelectable we should be supporting one that’s risking helping people rather than their own careers and pockets.

Otherwise people have no right to complain about waiting hours at A&E while refusing to give this party a chance to help them.

The only reason it’s Corbyn is because no other politician is interested in being part of a party that’ll actually help people

Poor forgotten Zarah Sultana.

Once again ignoring the member led not politician point of the party.

Will be a bit of a bind though. It will be member driven within limits.

Otherwise you might get members deciding the best way to get properly functioning health and care services is to say bar asylum seekers from using it and to only allow UK nationals etc

You said Corbyn was the only politician who cares to start this party, and now it's not actually about the politician at all. 🤷‍♀️

Anyway, Corbyn has a proven history of not relinquishing leadership and clinging to power long beyond the time he should have fucked off so we'll see how this power-sharing with Sultana goes. Swimmingly, so far, I think.

In 2017 he took a massive chunk out of the Tories majority. Many say that given a few more weeks he'd have won.
In 2019 there was a deliberate and vicious campaign by the mainstream media to slander and undermine him in any way they could. That is why he lost, that and Brexit. People wanted Brexit discussions over and done with, and Boris was promising to 'get Brexit done'.
Jeremy Corbyn is still hugely popular with young voters, and it wouldn't just be him at the helm anyway. Zara Sultana too; and hopefully a collaboration with The Green Party under Zac Polanski's leadership.
The Labour party is currently extremely unpopular with both left and right. We need an alternative to try to prevent both a Reform victory and more of same LINO (Labour in name only)
Watch this space...

He had two elections and he lost both. End of story. You can't blame the media because all politicians have to deal with the media. Corbyn is popular with a certain group of people but there aren't enough of that people to win an election, and he is an absolute anathema to all other voters.

A portion of blame lies with the media, that’s undeniable. The lies and slander he received was extraordinary. He had a lot more support before he started gaining momentum, at which point the media started what they do best.

To this day people still believe that his being against starvation of children is antisemitic.

All politicians have to deal with the media. Successful politicians can handle the media. Corbyn kept giving them open goals. He'd given them plenty in his career long before becoming Labour leader.

It’s not about handling the media though. It’s why the media were so determined to keep him out of power and what that means for the general public.

@OonaStubbs respectfully I don't agree. It was next level with Jeremy Corbyn. He challenged the status quo. He was planning to make our society fairer, which meant more accountability and taxes for the rich. Tighter rent controls. Many exploitative landlords, employers etc amongst the establishment. Rupert Murdoch and co saw him as a direct threat to their power and privilege. They made it their mission to sabotage his chances in 2019. It just wasn't anything like as bad with other politicians.

Notice that people are going into the well-oiled 'it was the press making up lies' defence rather than addressing the genuine concerns raised in my post.

He had a lot of skeletons in his closet from things he had done, statements he had made in the past. You can make all the plans you want as far as challenging the status quo etc but unless you can actually win an election, it means nothing.

Very well put. He threatened the status quo that keeps those in power and money, in power and money. That's why he was seen as dangerous by them.

And Corbyn didn't realise this himself? It was a total surprise to him that the media would go after him? He wasn't prepared?

How can Corbyn tackle issues when he can't win elections?

The same way Farage did?

This. Question why the media were so determined to stop him from winning an election and the interests of those with financial influence.

Can't win elections ?
Well he stuffed labour in Islington North last year. Those who know him and have had direct contact seem to have faith in him.
They can't all be Jew-hating, useful idiots, can they ?