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This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/07/2025 12:33

Honestly it’s such a bloody nightmare. Reform are making a total hash of local government from what I’ve read, putting teenagers in charge of whole departments with no relevant experience. What are they going to do if they are elected to run a country!!!! I’m honestly terrified. Labour need to be seen to be actively doing something to quell the far-right momentum that’s gaining traction from ordinary folk. I’m amazed at the average, usually pretty sensible people around me who are now telling me they are going to vote Reform.

there was an interview I saw yesterday where the minister said that thousands of people were being deported regularly. The interviewer asked why there were no videos of this and she said there could be. Well let’s see it! It would absolutely help.

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Alexandra2001 · 03/08/2025 20:10

User32459 · 03/08/2025 20:04

Detain them within the hotel grounds for now if needs be, with extra security, but start building detention centres for further arrivals.

Ok so turn our town centre hotels into prisons..... the level of secuurity will be very high, think guards, razor wire fences etc etc....

Build new detention centres.... ok

How does this stop more arrivals? at a point in time, the country will run out of money to house and will release them........ they then enter the black economy and work.... happy days! More keep coming...

Try again..... with your 5 minute solution....

User32459 · 03/08/2025 20:22

Alexandra2001 · 03/08/2025 20:10

Ok so turn our town centre hotels into prisons..... the level of secuurity will be very high, think guards, razor wire fences etc etc....

Build new detention centres.... ok

How does this stop more arrivals? at a point in time, the country will run out of money to house and will release them........ they then enter the black economy and work.... happy days! More keep coming...

Try again..... with your 5 minute solution....

"run out of money to house". We're paying billions and billions a year now as it is to house them.

If you have deterrents and take away incentives the numbers will drop. Labour have removed any deterrents and numbers have gone through the roof because they know once here they're here for good and then can bring their families over once their claim is granted. In the meantime they can lap it up in a hotel with everything provided for them and can come and go as they please.

Alexandra2001 · 03/08/2025 20:36

User32459 · 03/08/2025 20:22

"run out of money to house". We're paying billions and billions a year now as it is to house them.

If you have deterrents and take away incentives the numbers will drop. Labour have removed any deterrents and numbers have gone through the roof because they know once here they're here for good and then can bring their families over once their claim is granted. In the meantime they can lap it up in a hotel with everything provided for them and can come and go as they please.

Numbers are no higher than in 2022! an easy google!!

Its costing billions, yes it is, keeping people in hotels turned into prisons and detention centres for 5 10 or 15 ++ years will cost billions more.

Yes, they are here for good, whether its in a hotel or a hotel with razor wire... i'm glad you release that.

If we really wanted a deterrent, we'd send to the Falklands, no 3rd country to pay, just building costs for a detention centre, say housing 5 to 10k..... imprisoned indefinitely.... a UK version of Guantanamo Bay

You happy with that?

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 21:06

User32459 · 03/08/2025 20:22

"run out of money to house". We're paying billions and billions a year now as it is to house them.

If you have deterrents and take away incentives the numbers will drop. Labour have removed any deterrents and numbers have gone through the roof because they know once here they're here for good and then can bring their families over once their claim is granted. In the meantime they can lap it up in a hotel with everything provided for them and can come and go as they please.

Yes numbers would drop to near zero in some years.

Perhaps something else will happen before the next GE but if the numbers keep going up then I think people will want a system change.

Alexandra2001 · 03/08/2025 21:17

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 21:06

Yes numbers would drop to near zero in some years.

Perhaps something else will happen before the next GE but if the numbers keep going up then I think people will want a system change.

So you keep telling us but without ever saying where we should send migrants too???

Thats because you've not got a clue which country would accept 5 or 10k migrants.....

If only it were so simple.... Italy, Austria etc would have done it, far right Govt's, with mandate... cannot find a country willing to take part....

Who knew!!!

TheNuthatch · 03/08/2025 21:23

Labour should have at least tried Rwanda. But no, they were too pig-headed because they could smash the gangs instead.

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 21:32

Alexandra2001 · 03/08/2025 21:17

So you keep telling us but without ever saying where we should send migrants too???

Thats because you've not got a clue which country would accept 5 or 10k migrants.....

If only it were so simple.... Italy, Austria etc would have done it, far right Govt's, with mandate... cannot find a country willing to take part....

Who knew!!!

I don’t answer because it’s the same badgering on every thread. You first need to accept the numbers will be low.

If you do actually accept that then great. Can you?

ThisOldThang · 03/08/2025 21:35

Labour only ever talk about smashing the gangs. They never talk about reducing the numbers.

They have zero intention of stopping the boats. They don't see a problem with the boats and they don't care if you don't want the boats.

As Aana Soubry said during the Brexit process 'Suck it up.'

Extravirginolive · 03/08/2025 21:36

More councils pushing back. This letter gets straight to the point.

This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?
ThisOldThang · 03/08/2025 21:42

Extravirginolive · 03/08/2025 21:36

More councils pushing back. This letter gets straight to the point.

How anybody can look at situations such as this and be against solutions such as Rwanda is beyond me.

So long as they've got that nice warm fuzzy feeling for being a 'nice person', it doesn't matter what happens as a direct consequence of the policies they support.

Narcissistic sociopaths.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/03/council-leader-police-cover-up-rape-asylum-seekers/

Bumble6 · 03/08/2025 21:47

Extravirginolive · 03/08/2025 21:36

More councils pushing back. This letter gets straight to the point.

This is such an awful case

Cattenberg · 03/08/2025 21:49

taxguru · 03/08/2025 17:21

Lots of small flats in 55+ small blocks of flats around here, but no one seems to want them. Some are really cheap too! When I last did a Rightmove search for 1 bed flats there were around 50, when I filtered out the retirement complexes it came down to around 5!! A lot of older people simply don't want to live in retirement flats surrounded by "old" people!!

My home town is just like this! Its population is significantly older than the UK average and that is only likely to increase as developers keep building more and more retirement complexes and very few homes for first-time buyers.

I'm not sure our local Council has the power to change this, as our current planning laws mean that unsuitable developments often get planning permission. If councillors vote to reject such a development, the developer will take the council to court and probably win, leaving the Council with a big legal bill it can't really afford.

Whilst I don't know the history of our planning laws, I tend to blame the Tories, because they had 14 years to make sure that our planning laws were fit for purpose and they clearly didn't.

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 21:55

ThisOldThang · 03/08/2025 21:42

How anybody can look at situations such as this and be against solutions such as Rwanda is beyond me.

So long as they've got that nice warm fuzzy feeling for being a 'nice person', it doesn't matter what happens as a direct consequence of the policies they support.

Narcissistic sociopaths.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/03/council-leader-police-cover-up-rape-asylum-seekers/

Agree. It’s a harrowing read. Just awful.

Bumble6 · 03/08/2025 22:00

I am not a supporter of Reform by any means but I do feel, as others have said, that the days of just labelling anyone who vaguely supports anything from Reform as racist, fascist or stupid are gone.
There are many people who live in areas where there are large amounts of illegal immigrants who are genuinely concerned for theirs and their children's safety. Of course there will be those amongst the people coming here who are decent people looking for a better life but as we have seen many times over now, there are also those who wish to commit awful criminal acts and whose beliefs, especially towards women, are very different to ours here. We have no idea who these people are or where they have come from and there are criminals making huge amounts of money trafficking them here. How can this be a good thing from any point of view?

I definitely do not want Farage as prime minister, I think it would be a disaster. However, I also think the tide is turning in this country and there are many people who have genuine concerns about illegal immigration that shouldn't be rubbished just because they don't happen to be affecting you personally.

Labour need to wake up FAST.

ThisOldThang · 03/08/2025 22:04

Extravirginolive · 03/08/2025 21:36

More councils pushing back. This letter gets straight to the point.

Just to add that Warwickshire County Council are now Reform.

I doubt Labour or Conservative council leaders would be writing robust letters taking the police to task for covering up a suspected asylum seeker rape of a 12 year old girl and demanding the closure of all migrant hotels and HMOs in the county.

Extravirginolive · 03/08/2025 22:23

Labour won't.

The Labour councils and police support and protection of child rape gangs is the most depraved public sector failure imaginable.

Kibble19 · 03/08/2025 22:51

Farage is the bookies favourite to be the next PM. The cries of Nazism, far right thuggery and racism are no longer making people feel like they can’t vote Reform.

Starmer might as well be Farage’s campaign manager at this point. He’s doing the work for him.

Julen7 · 03/08/2025 22:55

Kibble19 · 03/08/2025 22:51

Farage is the bookies favourite to be the next PM. The cries of Nazism, far right thuggery and racism are no longer making people feel like they can’t vote Reform.

Starmer might as well be Farage’s campaign manager at this point. He’s doing the work for him.

Yes making it so easy

Nchangeo · 04/08/2025 00:17

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 21:55

Agree. It’s a harrowing read. Just awful.

Yes I am really gutted about this. That poor girl. That’s a town neighbouring ours. I am on one of the first few pages saying these hotels are in our area and thankfully there’s been no sexual assaults. Less than a week later and one girls life has been devastated. 12 years old! Can you imagine. Honestly I have no words right now. The government should be ashamed of themselves.

Nchangeo · 04/08/2025 00:21

And actually I just googled as we did have a rape last year of a young girl. A year later the name of the perpetrator has never been released. So who’s knows actually whether this was the first.

justasking111 · 04/08/2025 00:28

Nchangeo · 04/08/2025 00:21

And actually I just googled as we did have a rape last year of a young girl. A year later the name of the perpetrator has never been released. So who’s knows actually whether this was the first.

What concerns me is that these sexual predators will simply be moved elsewhere free to molest again. Rather as the church protected the priests.

TheNuthatch · 04/08/2025 00:36

ThisOldThang · 03/08/2025 21:42

How anybody can look at situations such as this and be against solutions such as Rwanda is beyond me.

So long as they've got that nice warm fuzzy feeling for being a 'nice person', it doesn't matter what happens as a direct consequence of the policies they support.

Narcissistic sociopaths.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/03/council-leader-police-cover-up-rape-asylum-seekers/

So true.
This case is horrendous. There is a thread about it on mn. I don't know how anyone can defend the status quo.

Nchangeo · 04/08/2025 00:37

TheNuthatch · 04/08/2025 00:36

So true.
This case is horrendous. There is a thread about it on mn. I don't know how anyone can defend the status quo.

Can you link please if you have it to hand. This is local to me so I would like to see if there are other locals on there.

Nchangeo · 04/08/2025 01:04

Thanks @TheNuthatch