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This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?

916 replies

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/07/2025 12:33

Honestly it’s such a bloody nightmare. Reform are making a total hash of local government from what I’ve read, putting teenagers in charge of whole departments with no relevant experience. What are they going to do if they are elected to run a country!!!! I’m honestly terrified. Labour need to be seen to be actively doing something to quell the far-right momentum that’s gaining traction from ordinary folk. I’m amazed at the average, usually pretty sensible people around me who are now telling me they are going to vote Reform.

there was an interview I saw yesterday where the minister said that thousands of people were being deported regularly. The interviewer asked why there were no videos of this and she said there could be. Well let’s see it! It would absolutely help.

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Blackcordoroys · 24/07/2025 19:37

Livpool · 24/07/2025 19:36

I am worried about women losing healthcare.

I am pro-choice - if someone doesn’t like abortion then they should have one.

I don’t disagree. But many women do

EasternStandard · 24/07/2025 19:39

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 19:34

And what do you think Reform will do differently?

You’re probably better off asking someone who has said they are voting for Reform.

The point was Labour use soundbites as much as any party, and a problem they have is many can see they were empty lines - gangs / taxes / other

Theyreeatingthedogs · 24/07/2025 19:42

Farage is a master populist. He is great at complaining and moaning and pointing his finger. He has no idea how to run a country. He can't even run the Reform party properly. He will always blame others.

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 19:42

EasternStandard · 24/07/2025 19:39

You’re probably better off asking someone who has said they are voting for Reform.

The point was Labour use soundbites as much as any party, and a problem they have is many can see they were empty lines - gangs / taxes / other

There is never an aswer to that question.

Anyone cheering for a Reform government should be asking it though.

As you said, soundbites

myheadsjustmush · 24/07/2025 19:44

Something needs to be done.

My local town is full of illegal immigrants. I don't feel safe going there, and I actively avoid the place.

We have also had a fatal stabbing not long back. The culprit? An illegal immigrant.

Shoplifting is rife. Only yesterday I saw some lowlife run off with a couple of large potted plants from our local supermarket. The security guard just shrugged.

On a regular basis, there are warnings to parents to be vigilant because men are approaching children to get in their car.

This country has turned into a lawless $hithole.

EasternStandard · 24/07/2025 19:45

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 19:42

There is never an aswer to that question.

Anyone cheering for a Reform government should be asking it though.

As you said, soundbites

Give it a try, there are others who know more about what they’re offering. Or you could have a look.

If you think you know who I’m voting for then you’ve likely mixed up posters.

VilleValo · 24/07/2025 20:00

I think at this point Reform could probably do a better job than Labour. But then, Labour have set the bar incredibly low. I might vote Reform if it helps boot the useless PM out.

Like it or not, Reform know what the majority want.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/07/2025 20:02

I don’t think we know how Reform think they are going to sort out the problems that previous governments haven’t been able to. How are they going to improve public services without raising taxes for example? The only thing I can see they might try and do is slash the welfare bill by forcing people to work and stop paying for asylum seekers to be housed adequately so we’ll just have American style tent cities instead.

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littlebilliie · 24/07/2025 20:09

At the moment they don’t have any decent experience politicians however I do think that some will cross the floor if it looks like reform will get in. Junior ministers could end up running with a country I think it’s a real political opportunity

VilleValo · 24/07/2025 20:09

@EvangelicalAboutButteredToast Can't say I personally think it would be a good plan, but your suggestion would probably be popular with tax payers fed up of propping up the welfare state. There's only so far you can push the law-abiding working population. Labour hasn't done anything for them as yet!

scalt · 24/07/2025 20:40

PandoraSocks · 24/07/2025 19:05

What were those reasons?

Gaining public compliance, frightening them into obedience and believing everything the government told them.

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 20:43

EasternStandard · 24/07/2025 19:45

Give it a try, there are others who know more about what they’re offering. Or you could have a look.

If you think you know who I’m voting for then you’ve likely mixed up posters.

I thought you knew what Reform voters were thinking.

I have asked, the answer is always that they don't care about the policies.

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 20:47

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EasternStandard · 24/07/2025 20:52

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 20:43

I thought you knew what Reform voters were thinking.

I have asked, the answer is always that they don't care about the policies.

Really, well you’re still better off asking directly or reading posts on why. There’s enough to go on on here.

PandoraSocks · 24/07/2025 21:07

SaywhatIthink · 24/07/2025 19:20

Calm down its just a saying.
To answer you`re above question simple nothing troubles me.

I dont care what goes on with the government war tax rise cost of living people sailing in people deported out people staying low wages child care cost yeah nothing dont care.

Well, that is a very eloquent and well written reply. Thank you.

SummerFeverVenice · 24/07/2025 21:13

Probably. It’s Farage’s go to scapegoat guaranteed to win votes.

2015
Migration is the problem….> it’s the EU’s fault….> Take back control of our borders and vote LEAVE

After the vote- Um, 😳 er it’s the Tories’ fault for doing Brexit wrong…even though they did the hard Brexit I said would do the trick.

2025
Migration is the problem…> it’s the woke left’s fault…. > save Britannia and vote REFORM

Day after- guess what he will say? Or rather, who will he blame?

beguilingeyes · 24/07/2025 21:24

They've put a 19 year old in charge of Warwickshire Council. I have not the words. And they're supposed to be a serious party?

MyNameIsX · 24/07/2025 21:25

PandoraSocks · 24/07/2025 17:54

Why would I think that? Have I called anyone a Nazi on this thread? Nope.

Eta: I agree the asylum system is broken and has been for a long time. The Tories could have fixed it instead of piddling about with white elephants like Rwanda. How much money did they waste again?

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That would not be the same Rwanda scheme that Starmer flirted with, would it?

Oh, no it was Albania.

Same, same.

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 21:29

beguilingeyes · 24/07/2025 21:24

They've put a 19 year old in charge of Warwickshire Council. I have not the words. And they're supposed to be a serious party?

Don't worry, they are going to spend money on hiring political assistants to come up with ideas other than banning flags

bromlyons · 24/07/2025 21:38

People are fed up. Life in Britain has become increasingly difficult. Home ownership feels out of reach, taxes are punishing, and the old promise that education and hard work lead to a better life has collapsed.

Many communities have seen clear decline with boarded-up shops, fewer jobs and more crime. In some areas, the demographic shift has happened so quickly and it feels imposed. People no longer feel safe. Phone thefts and burglaries go ignored, while police focus on tweets or parents who confiscate iPads.

Meanwhile, birth rates are falling, the cost of an ageing population is rising, and instead of supporting families, the government turns to more migration. Why not make the tax system fairer for those raising children?

At the same time, personal responsibility has faded. We have become too reliant on the state, more individualistic, and disconnected from our duty to each other and to our communities.

I have always been on the left, but the trans debate was a turning point. The silencing, the denial of reality, the gaslighting. It made me start to question much more.

I am not voting Reform. I do not think they have the answers. I live in a diverse area where integration works. My neighbours are respectful and we support each other. My husband is a hard working immigrant who values this country. That is what integration should look like with shared values and investment in the future.

But we need to stop dismissing those who are turning to Reform. Many are not hateful. They just want to feel safe, respected, and at home in their own country. Ignoring that will only deepen the divide and increase the anger.

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 21:38

MyNameIsX · 24/07/2025 21:25

That would not be the same Rwanda scheme that Starmer flirted with, would it?

Oh, no it was Albania.

Same, same.

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The £700m spent on the failed Rwanda plan would have gone a long way towards clearing the asylum backlog and ending the use of hotels.

£1.8m for each of the 300 asylum seekers

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 21:42

bromlyons · 24/07/2025 21:38

People are fed up. Life in Britain has become increasingly difficult. Home ownership feels out of reach, taxes are punishing, and the old promise that education and hard work lead to a better life has collapsed.

Many communities have seen clear decline with boarded-up shops, fewer jobs and more crime. In some areas, the demographic shift has happened so quickly and it feels imposed. People no longer feel safe. Phone thefts and burglaries go ignored, while police focus on tweets or parents who confiscate iPads.

Meanwhile, birth rates are falling, the cost of an ageing population is rising, and instead of supporting families, the government turns to more migration. Why not make the tax system fairer for those raising children?

At the same time, personal responsibility has faded. We have become too reliant on the state, more individualistic, and disconnected from our duty to each other and to our communities.

I have always been on the left, but the trans debate was a turning point. The silencing, the denial of reality, the gaslighting. It made me start to question much more.

I am not voting Reform. I do not think they have the answers. I live in a diverse area where integration works. My neighbours are respectful and we support each other. My husband is a hard working immigrant who values this country. That is what integration should look like with shared values and investment in the future.

But we need to stop dismissing those who are turning to Reform. Many are not hateful. They just want to feel safe, respected, and at home in their own country. Ignoring that will only deepen the divide and increase the anger.

wrong post quoted, sorry

suburburban · 24/07/2025 21:52

bromlyons · 24/07/2025 21:38

People are fed up. Life in Britain has become increasingly difficult. Home ownership feels out of reach, taxes are punishing, and the old promise that education and hard work lead to a better life has collapsed.

Many communities have seen clear decline with boarded-up shops, fewer jobs and more crime. In some areas, the demographic shift has happened so quickly and it feels imposed. People no longer feel safe. Phone thefts and burglaries go ignored, while police focus on tweets or parents who confiscate iPads.

Meanwhile, birth rates are falling, the cost of an ageing population is rising, and instead of supporting families, the government turns to more migration. Why not make the tax system fairer for those raising children?

At the same time, personal responsibility has faded. We have become too reliant on the state, more individualistic, and disconnected from our duty to each other and to our communities.

I have always been on the left, but the trans debate was a turning point. The silencing, the denial of reality, the gaslighting. It made me start to question much more.

I am not voting Reform. I do not think they have the answers. I live in a diverse area where integration works. My neighbours are respectful and we support each other. My husband is a hard working immigrant who values this country. That is what integration should look like with shared values and investment in the future.

But we need to stop dismissing those who are turning to Reform. Many are not hateful. They just want to feel safe, respected, and at home in their own country. Ignoring that will only deepen the divide and increase the anger.

Yes absolutely this

justasking111 · 24/07/2025 22:02

Perhaps some of the votes are not pro Reform but anti labour, Tory, etc. they're sending a message in the only way that they can.

Blunderbussviking · 24/07/2025 22:06

Come next election, I am voting Reform. More and more people feel the same way, and a similar awakening is happening throughout Europe.
Nigel Farage is a no-nonsense person who sees through the woke bullshit that’s been shoved down our throat for a long time. He is actually a very intelligent, well-spoken man with superb communication skills.
Don’t reply with woke bullshit and leftist garbage because I will just ignore it 😄

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