Reform party

[Gman1]

Is the growing intrest in the reform party a sign that racism is growing in this country and has now become acceptable.

Yes they are

Just laughable isn’t it

True. I don’t mind if Labour keep going on about how well they’re doing when they’re losing so much support.

Being oblivious will more likely get them out at the next GE.

Yep, none of which was in their manifesto. But of course it's the media's fault, not Labour's.

Of course not. Just pointing out a certain lack of regard for facts.

Facts? It is you who has a lack of regard for the facts. Labour lost two thirds of the seats they were contesting. They lost Durham, they lost their 14700 majority in Runcorn. MP in Liverpool has said that Starmer is heading towards being as unpopular there as Thatcher.

I think it's more an indication that people are sick of being called racist because they don't believe in critical race theory, or 'anti racism', which deals with theory rather than actions of individuals and basically says that if you are white then you are automatically racist (you just can't help it apparently)

They are being fed up with being told that their views are wrong just because wealthy elites don't agree with them, when they are not actually in the position where their opportunities and services are being damaged by mass migration.

Also fed up of people like Lucy Powell using sneering terms such as 'dog whistle' when she really wants to just shut down that individual's views and cow them into being quiet because she disagrees with them.

We have different views. We should be able to discuss these things in a civil way without being called racist or far right.

Oh but someone will be along in a moment to say poor Labour have only just started, how can we possibly judge them so soon? Added to which the Tories are even more unpopular (as if in some perverse way this makes Labour better)

Brilliant post, completely agree

Let them think Labour are doing well. More chance they’ll be out at next GE.

Wales will be interesting next year.

So 679 is less than 188 in your world? And losing every single Tory run council - 18 in all - is a better result than losing Durham? Come on!

So much hatred of both Labour and Tories. Real politicians have to take tough decisions for the long term good of the UK. They have to tackle the ongoing deficit and the huge (post 2009) financial crisis and Covid debt - huge amounts are being paid in interest. Also tough decisions on the need for immigration for growth, as we’re not having enough kids to pay for the massively increasing pensioner population.

Reform are just populist nutters who criticise loudly with no long term view. It will be interesting to see the cuts they make in adult social care, children’s social care etc. in the councils they have taken over. Farage says he can save millions but councils are already cut to the bone, the old reserves are gone. I predict it will be chaotic. Hopefully the electorate will see them for the numpties they are.

It's quite fascinating that this is your take away from these results. I suppose you're willing to go down with the ship.

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I don’t think they’ll budge. Let them stick to Labour.

Meanwhile they could be out next GE.

Yes you're right. No point flogging a dead horse. Let them crack on, further and faster down the same road.

Circling out further and faster with emojis on top.

Blossom - do you really not get what has just happened. You seem to be making excuse after excuse for Labour and that is EXACTLY why someone like Farage will get more and more power.

The electorate has given both parties a bloody nose and most importantly Labour are in power not because they were better than any party but because the electorate wanted the Tories out.

So far Labour have managed to piss off so many groups of people and they are not finished yet. Reeves almost has a smirk on her face when she is stabbing certain groups in the back or maybe it’s just me. She quite honestly seems more interested in grabbing any freebie going.

For me it was the WFA and the employers NI rise. Just what was she thinking?
The state pension is what £12k per year? About the cost of Reeves travelling Business Class to the US with a few assistants. The thing about the elderly is it’s not as though they can ask for a few extra shifts. The NI increase was just plain bonkers.

If it was up to me we would curb all immigration but the conservatives allowed more in than Tony Blair....so all this blaming Starmer for now seems like right wing plot to remove a government that is actually working for normal workers.

What is a "normal worker"? I work but Labour certainly isn't working for me. Thanks to them my company has an additional £1 million NI bill so they are freezing recruitment and cutting jobs. So it's not working for those "workers" either!

Please define the "workers" for whom Labour policies are working for!

Is it? This sounds like a Labour line.

How are Labour helping SMEs, farmers, schools, about anyone at this point

What kind of work do you do that you buy their line

The WFA cut affected me. It was absolutely the right thing to do, the wonder to me is that the previous government didn’t do it.

And you appear to be as innumerate as some others on thread. Since when was citing facts making excuses?

Blossom - if the Tories had removed the WFA something tells me you would have been first on a thread complaining.

Wealthy pensioners won’t mind losing it, especially if they need to support Labour no matter what.

It’s more those on basic pension who will feel the cuts.

No I wouldn’t because I’m sensible enough to know that no party’s policies are 100% good or bad.