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Gman1 · 02/05/2025 17:13

Is the growing intrest in the reform party a sign that racism is growing in this country and has now become acceptable.

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BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 02/05/2025 17:14

I think it's more a sign of complete disgust and disillusionment with the main parties

BIWI · 02/05/2025 17:15

Yes
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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/05/2025 17:16

No, it’s a sign that people are worried that the country is full, and we cannot cope with more people, especially people who are coming illegally; neither Conservatives or Labour seem to have the will to address a Europe wide problem.

The chairman of Reform is of Sri Lankan heritage.

BIWI · 02/05/2025 17:17

The chairman of Reform is of Sri Lankan heritage.

So what? Doesn’t stop them being racist.

… and the country isn’t full.

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/05/2025 17:19

They have a propaganda mouthpiece spreading their lies 24/7 under the pretence of being a News channel.

lavendarwillow · 02/05/2025 17:23

Can you honestly say the UK is an attractive place to live right now (unless you are a millionaire)? Quality of life has decreased dramatically and the Labour government have kick started a recession. The Tories bled the country dry of course.

SallyWD · 02/05/2025 17:31

It's much more complex than that but I think that yes, racism is growing in this country and is becoming more acceptable. I've noticed a big change since Brexit, in that respect. There are many other factors at play too - but that's undeniably a part of it.

Sirzy · 02/05/2025 17:36

Yes, and I think sadly a lot of people are in denial about their racist tendencies.

Zonder · 02/05/2025 17:36

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/05/2025 17:19

They have a propaganda mouthpiece spreading their lies 24/7 under the pretence of being a News channel.

And that's just the BBC.

EdithBond · 02/05/2025 18:22

Around 80% of the public think there’s racism and the extent of it’s getting worse: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1123242/opinion-on-racism-in-uk-society/.

For me the Reform votes are certainly a sign of a reduction in anti-racism (and all anti-discrimination).

I’ve fought discrimination all my adult life (since 1980s). It’s not good enough to not be racist or not support policies which have racist effects (like cuts to benefits). It’s not good enough to turn a blind eye to racism or any discrimination. You have to be anti-racist, by educating yourself and challenging it.

For example, Reform want to abolish the Equality Act 2010. This makes racism, sex discrimination or disability discrimination unlawful. It also requires all public bodies (NHS, schools, councils etc) to be subject to an equality duty and assess the impact of policy changes on protected groups, including women.

But apparently more voters think it’s fine and dandy to make racism, sexism, homophobia, ableism etc totally legal and not give two stuffs if policies discriminate. People who vote Reform don’t mind if women are discriminated against, such as by being sexually harassed at work. They’re voting to remove women’s rights. As well as Black people’s rights. Disabled people’s rights etc.

UK racism survey 2024| Statista

As of September 2024, 46 percent of people in Great Britain thought that racism was somewhat prevalent in the United Kingdom, with 34 percent believing that there was a great deal of racism in the UK.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1123242/opinion-on-racism-in-uk-society/?__sso_cookie_checker=failed

EdithBond · 02/05/2025 18:24

lavendarwillow · 02/05/2025 17:23

Can you honestly say the UK is an attractive place to live right now (unless you are a millionaire)? Quality of life has decreased dramatically and the Labour government have kick started a recession. The Tories bled the country dry of course.

Where would you say is better and why?

Doris86 · 02/05/2025 19:07

Gman1 · 02/05/2025 17:13

Is the growing intrest in the reform party a sign that racism is growing in this country and has now become acceptable.

Wanting controls on immigration isn’t racist. If it was then Australia would be one of the most racist countries in the world.

EasternStandard · 02/05/2025 19:19

The EU and U.K. are struggling with trafficking / migration. The pressure from voters is translating to support for parties who respond to that.

Livelovebehappy · 02/05/2025 19:20

BIWI · 02/05/2025 17:17

The chairman of Reform is of Sri Lankan heritage.

So what? Doesn’t stop them being racist.

… and the country isn’t full.

Hilarious. Try telling that to the millions on housing waiting lists and NHS waiting lists. Theyll put you right....

TammyJones · 02/05/2025 20:27

Doris86 · 02/05/2025 19:07

Wanting controls on immigration isn’t racist. If it was then Australia would be one of the most racist countries in the world.

This

TammyJones · 02/05/2025 20:29

Livelovebehappy · 02/05/2025 19:20

Hilarious. Try telling that to the millions on housing waiting lists and NHS waiting lists. Theyll put you right....

Finally …. This. Thank you.

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 20:32

No, it's a sign that people are sick of 2 party politics.

It is a sign that Labour threw away their chance by laying, obfuscating and gaslighting. They have pissed EVERYONE off and made pretty much everything worse: economy, education, immigration.
They called anyone who disagreed with them "far right" which only served to push people to Reform.
Labour have been arrogant, complacent and clearly hold electorate in contempt.

That's what today's results have been about.

SpottedDonkey · 02/05/2025 20:38

No. It’s disillusionment with failed mainstream politicians who are completely out of touch with voters. Particularly white working class voters who live in England outside the M25, and who feel ignored and patronised by metropolitan liberal elites.

SallyWD · 02/05/2025 20:39

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 20:32

No, it's a sign that people are sick of 2 party politics.

It is a sign that Labour threw away their chance by laying, obfuscating and gaslighting. They have pissed EVERYONE off and made pretty much everything worse: economy, education, immigration.
They called anyone who disagreed with them "far right" which only served to push people to Reform.
Labour have been arrogant, complacent and clearly hold electorate in contempt.

That's what today's results have been about.

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Nonsense. They didn't call "anyone who disagreed with them far right". Just the people who were trying to burn down hotels full of asylum seekers, or those who encouraged them to do so, the people who were attacking mosques and beating up black and Asian people.

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 20:40

SallyWD · 02/05/2025 20:39

Nonsense. They didn't call "anyone who disagreed with them far right". Just the people who were trying to burn down hotels full of asylum seekers, or those who encouraged them to do so, the people who were attacking mosques and beating up black and Asian people.

And yet you prove my point. Thank you.

Ralphslegs · 02/05/2025 20:54

Livelovebehappy · 02/05/2025 19:20

Hilarious. Try telling that to the millions on housing waiting lists and NHS waiting lists. Theyll put you right....

My sister in law is sharing a single bed with her six year old son in a box room at her parents house. Still waiting for housing six months later. But yeah country is fine.😂

TheNuthatch · 02/05/2025 20:59

twistyizzy · 02/05/2025 20:32

No, it's a sign that people are sick of 2 party politics.

It is a sign that Labour threw away their chance by laying, obfuscating and gaslighting. They have pissed EVERYONE off and made pretty much everything worse: economy, education, immigration.
They called anyone who disagreed with them "far right" which only served to push people to Reform.
Labour have been arrogant, complacent and clearly hold electorate in contempt.

That's what today's results have been about.

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TheNuthatch · 02/05/2025 21:02

SallyWD · 02/05/2025 20:39

Nonsense. They didn't call "anyone who disagreed with them far right". Just the people who were trying to burn down hotels full of asylum seekers, or those who encouraged them to do so, the people who were attacking mosques and beating up black and Asian people.

Today's results prove otherwise.

CaptainFuture · 02/05/2025 21:04

SpottedDonkey · 02/05/2025 20:38

No. It’s disillusionment with failed mainstream politicians who are completely out of touch with voters. Particularly white working class voters who live in England outside the M25, and who feel ignored and patronised by metropolitan liberal elites.

This, also a sign that sycophantic, sneering 'why won't you vote how I tell you, you fucking idiotic, brainless thicko, as I'm clearly better than you" bullshit doesn't work.