Reform party

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Will Reform win any votes at the local elections?

Lonelycrab
Polling consistently says two thirds of the country now understand Brexit to be a mistake

Ipsos said 54% end of January.

There were no trade deals

Clearly there were - Australia, New Zealand, CPTPP - possibly US. Not to mention that France is opposed to the Mercosur trade deal recently signed by the EU.

And wasn’t it supposed to be maybe 50 years till the benefits kick in

No - that was a disingenuous misquote/edit.

Well that's depressing.

This is the party that wants to redefine the definition of hate speech. I can see which direction they will do that.

I really hope reform come canvassing on my door step! I'd film it. I would ask ALLLLLLL the questions!! I think they would run away.

Same with workers rights.

The TUC asked Clacton residents about that and they were shocked about Farages stance on it.

A man of the people

@Breakitdown

"But the deal was oven ready and we would have the lowest energy prices in Europe etc. "

To be fair the reason that the UK has the highest electricity prices in the world is because renewable subsidies are paid for by adding the cost to consumers electricity bills whereas most other countries pay for it out of general taxation.

Oh so more than half then?

What's France rejecting a trade deal signed by the EU got to do with Brexit??

Oh and here's the actual quote:
"We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time,” he said. “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.”

4 years on from this oven ready micro-pinged brexit and I've not seen one benefit. Felt the negatives but none of the so called positives.

Those deals were good for Australia andd New Zealand, for the UK not so much.

They laughed about it on NZ tv iirc

0.08% increase in GDP

I can't see us paying for cheaper energy via general taxation.

Oh I saw that.

Nooooo, not man of the people, salt of the earth, on our side, privately educated commodity trading Nigel Farage. You must have the wrong guy.

@Breakitdown

Yes some of those comments indeed qualify as hate speech but as for the comment:

"Another saying Bradford has a large Muslim population and is a "shithole""

Surely both parts of that comment are factually accurate:
a) Bradford does indeed have a large Muslim population and
b) Bradford is indeed a "shit hole" for example it has the highest crime rate of any city in the UK.

@Breakitdown

"I can't see us paying for cheaper energy via general taxation."

True but the problem with putting the cost of renewable subsidies on electricity bills is that it kills industry and jobs as Scunthorpe and Port Talbot have found out.

Plus other countries have been a lot slower to move to renewables than the UK which has kept their prices low.

I said I didn't know anything about the wider Tory Party's links to Savile - you will have to enlighten me. I also said, 'I would like to think that Margaret Thatcher was deceived by Savile' - I think that's a perfectly acceptable opinion otherwise you are suggesting that she knew he was sexually abusing children?

They might have laughed but what are the actual trade figures? I haven't seen any - which country has benefitted the most so far?

Oh I think she knew.

I thought the current government were going to negotiate a trade deal with the US?

Keir Starmer the Chlorinated Chicken King has a certain ring to it.

It's Big Nige who is currently defending chlorinated chicken.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/apr/20/nigel-farage-defends-allowing-us-chlorinated-chicken-into-uk-as-part-of-trade-deal

As far as I'm aware we have to maintain our food standards in line with the EU.

Farage is in favour of chlorinated chicken, the government is not.

And to be fair, the Tory government were also not interested in chlorinated chicken.

Just Reform.

What's France rejecting a trade deal signed by the EU got to do with Brexit??

They have to go along with the majority - we make our own decisions on who to sign a trade deal with.

"We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time,” he said.
“The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.”

That was Rees-Mogg's answer to 'What if you are wrong [about the benefits of Brexit]?'

It's a disingenuous edit because he had talked about the benefits of Brexit in the previous question/s.

Of which he of course was wrong about as we have evidence of.

Ipsos said 54% end of January.

It’s not quite as simple as that.

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on

She and the Tory party were warned about Saville, again public knowledge but went ahead with the Knighthood anyway.

You seem to want to throw accusations against anyone but the Tory party ie Thatcher was deceived but Starmer BBC etc etc all complicit or incompetent!

Well, it is Clav @Alexandra2001. She’s never made any pretence of balance.

Yet none of these benefits, he talked about, has or will ever occur.

I do recall you were a reluctant Leave supporter....

Yes exactly @BIossomtoes reminds me of another poster on here too..... as recent events have shown, more left leaning posters are perfectly capable of criticising Labour but on the 'right, no chance... the inability to do this by the Tories, is why this once great party is in danger of, as John Caudwell said recently, becoming an irrelevance.

I am confused about those posters who keep mentioning how bad Labour is but who do not really say how they feel about Reform.

I assume, like Clavinova, they do not mind a Tory/Reform coalition?

I am interested to hear which Reform policies are acceptable to Tory voters.

Just a point of clarification on the whole chlorine washed chicken issue.

Washing chicken meat in chlorinated water to reduce things like salmonella is in itself not harmful to human consumption. The problem is that chlorinated water washing "can" be used to hide poor health standards in abattoirs and in farming.

That said by far the biggest risk in eating chicken is not cooking it properly and cross contamination in the kitchen between cooked and uncooked meat.