What will happen between the US and Canada?

[SpidersAreShitheads]

I’m in the U.K. but have been following events in the US with mounting disbelief at Trump’s behaviour.

I see today Trump has increased the tariffs on Canada to 50% and is threatening to stick tariffs on car imports from Canada that will “shut down” their industry. Trump has also reiterated the fact that Canada WILL become part of the US.

Canada has reacted strongly so far and has again today said that there will be a response to the latest tariff announcements.

I have to be honest, much as I understood the U.K. attempt to flatter Trump to try and ease global tensions, there’s a large part of me that’s cheering on Canada’s refusal to back down.

What do people think is likely to happen? Can Canada sustain their “fuck you” response to Trump or will they eventually have to back down? Is there any genuine chance that the US will be able to annexe Canada?

I’d appreciate hearing people’s thoughts as this is all fascinating, albeit awful.

Dow plunges 890 points after Trump declines to rule out recession

“There is a period of transition, because what we’re doing is very big. We’re bringing wealth back to America. That’s a big thing. And there are always periods of — it takes a little time. It takes a little time. But I think it should be great for us. I mean, I think it should be great.”

Just while America adjusts

Are you scared? I would describe where I live the same as you did but that’s most of us in Canada.

Im scared. I just don’t know if it’s reasonable.

Im hoping if it comes to it, the commonwealth will back us

Canadians are taking Trump’s annexation talk very seriously | CNN Politics

Canadians sour on the US

Most Americans may not give much thought to Trump’s idea to turn Canada into a state, but Canadians are taking this very seriously, as anyone who has seen booing at NHL games or removal of US booze from Canadian shelves will tell you.

Nobody in the US is talking about an invasion force, but most Canadians (63%) say Trump should be taken seriously in a survey conducted by Leger for the Association for Canadian Studies. A little more than half say they would defend Canada from military invasion.

It is a trading bloc between those countries, all English speaking. It has been mooted a few times. Various pros and cons.

King Charles is Canada's head of state and ahead of the meeting Trudeau said: "Nothing seems more important to Canadians right now than standing up for our sovereignty and our independence as a nation."

King's Commonwealth message of unity in 'these uncertain times' - BBC News

heres a quote from another source Ontario agrees to suspend electricity surcharge ahead of talks with US :

The uncertainty around Trump’s tariff plans have led to a downturn in the stock market, and the president has not ruled out the possibility of a recession this year.

so basically its only investors getting cold feet. and the investors are the ones panicking causing the drops

Less scared (and we live near the border) but incredibly angry at Trump, his advisors and voters.

Americans will panic when they look at the value of their 401k!

thats the nature of the stock market, look at what damage the banks did during 2008

Where do you live?

not relevant to any points i make

It’s very relevant as to whether you are impacted or not. So far you’re just copying and pasting news articles

yes because those news articles help with my points, im not just going to randomly say i think without having articles to give creditability to my points

You’re just spouting Trump - no credibility there🤣

you want a real quote if trump truly aims to make america great again then as with any company eg gorden gekko style you have to strip away all the rot and rebuild it all to make it better eg teldar paper

Wall Street (1987) — “Greed is Good” | The Business Ethics Blog

correction im using quotes from the news articles to make my points, unless im ment to quote roman senators and randomly guess and try to make points ?

lets talk real for a moment. i dont understand trumps end game, but what ever it is the reality is canada needs trump more than trump needs canada and everyone knows it, other wise why are they already backing down ?

Here’s Gordon Gekko’s famous “Greed is good” speech, in its entirety:

Teldar Paper, Mr. Cromwell, Teldar Paper has 33 different vice presidents each earning over 200 thousand dollars a year. Now, I have spent the last two months analyzing what all these guys do, and I still can’t figure it out. One thing I do know is that our paper company lost 110 million dollars last year, and I’ll bet that half of that was spent in all the paperwork going back and forth between all these vice presidents. The new law of evolution in corporate America seems to be survival of the unfittest. Well, in my book you either do it right or you get eliminated. In the last seven deals that I’ve been involved with, there were 2.5 million stockholders who have made a pretax profit of 12 billion dollars. Thank you. I am not a destroyer of companies. I am a liberator of them! The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much.

President Trump's actions in 2025 reflect a Gekko-inspired approach to governance, characterized by aggressive economic tactics, strategic restructuring, and a transactional view of international relations.

Are you talking about the fictional Gordon Gekko?

@PoatoeGrower

Sometimes they are actually Americans pretending to be Canadian. I think it happens a lot.

Trump chats shit.

Most of the garbage he spouts is for effect.

I imagine Canada will ride out the blustery shit storm for the next 3.5 years until the c u n t is replaced.

Doug Ford removed the electricity tariff because he’d got what he wanted from Trump - a back pedal on the 50% tariff.

80s Hollywood economics are not the way to run your country in the 2025 global economy. ‘Investors getting spooked’ harms everyone.

This. I find it so strange when Trump or anyone else talks about America being the greatest country. It may be rich but that is so unevenly spread that so many Americans have a really low standard of living. So few holidays, having to work more than one job just to keep above water, so little support. Nothing on earth would make me want to be American. I don't even ever want to visit again.

You've jumped the shark now!