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Why do people in the UK support Trump?

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Kendodd · 20/01/2025 18:29

I've even seen MAGA flags (ok, maybe the owner was American). But Trump's focus and ONLY thing he cares about is America. He couldn't give a shit about the UK and would happily see the UK in ruins if it benefited America.

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TalkToTheHand123 · 17/07/2025 21:46

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Whammyyammy · 28/07/2025 21:50

After calling Khan out today, trump has gained a lot of popularity in the uk.

Abhannmor · 28/07/2025 22:20

I doubt that . Tariffs will cost jobs. Won't matter to the hard core racists of course. But I can't see him gaining popularity. Tricky for Farage too. Can be afford to be closely identified with the corrupt old lunatic?

TalkToTheHand123 · 11/08/2025 23:41

So now he's back to being Putin's chump. He doesn't realise how much of a dumb ass he is. So infuriating.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 13/08/2025 09:19

The sheer cheek of Vance, staying with Lammy and popping over to Munich to criticise the UK on free speech and human rights, whilst locking up swatches of their own population in alligator swamps. Trump has absolutely bombed human rights. Another of the Trump administration’s topsy turvy gaslighting statements, where they accuse a country of doing something that they themselves are doing x 1000. I suppose this what happens when you suck up to crocodiles.

StandFirm · 13/08/2025 09:49

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 13/08/2025 09:19

The sheer cheek of Vance, staying with Lammy and popping over to Munich to criticise the UK on free speech and human rights, whilst locking up swatches of their own population in alligator swamps. Trump has absolutely bombed human rights. Another of the Trump administration’s topsy turvy gaslighting statements, where they accuse a country of doing something that they themselves are doing x 1000. I suppose this what happens when you suck up to crocodiles.

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Just saw this article and it gave me the absolute rage: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/aug/13/trump-administration-accuses-uk-of-failing-to-uphold-human-rights

Trump administration accuses UK of failing to uphold human rights

US state department says Labour government ‘repeatedly intervened to chill speech’ online after Southport attack

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/aug/13/trump-administration-accuses-uk-of-failing-to-uphold-human-rights

TalkToTheHand123 · 13/08/2025 09:51

I'd have thought there would have been more protesting against his visit.

BIossomtoes · 13/08/2025 09:54

TalkToTheHand123 · 13/08/2025 09:51

I'd have thought there would have been more protesting against his visit.

Apparently the security detail is ridiculously over the top. Protesters wouldn’t get with five miles of him.

StandFirm · 13/08/2025 09:54

My gut feeling is I don't think enough people realise the toxic path that the US is heading down. It's not melodramatic or hyperbolic, it's simple observation, yet too many in the UK refuse to acknowledge it for what it is and how this could threaten our own sovereignty.

StandFirm · 13/08/2025 10:00

Also, his meeting with Jenrick and Philp but not Badenoch does not sit right with me. I get that we don't know the ins and outs of the planning that goes into those meetings, so I might be wrong as to why, but I find it suspicious he'd prioritise meeting two white blokes but not the black female leader of the opposition party.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 13/08/2025 13:28

Me too, @StandFirm . And yes to all.

BIossomtoes · 13/08/2025 13:36

StandFirm · 13/08/2025 10:00

Also, his meeting with Jenrick and Philp but not Badenoch does not sit right with me. I get that we don't know the ins and outs of the planning that goes into those meetings, so I might be wrong as to why, but I find it suspicious he'd prioritise meeting two white blokes but not the black female leader of the opposition party.

He’s worked out where the future of the Tories lies.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 16/08/2025 09:31

Well, what a charade the Alaska meeting was. Those two guys do love to whip up publicity and a drama then see how little they can offer back. I did wonder before they met whether it was a big showman’s act and nothing would come of it. So it turns out. Where was the thunder and retribution promised by Trump if no deal? Ah, thought not.

TalkToTheHand123 · 16/08/2025 09:52

Hopefully someone spells it out to Trump how much of a mug Putin is making him look.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 16/08/2025 10:03

Agreed, although he would help himself by not boasting so much of what he is able to achieve, which turns out to be not a lot.

littlesilvertop · 16/08/2025 10:50

The idea that Trump supporters are ‘thick’ only helps to fuel and grow the movement. It’s an old trope rolled out by people who look on from afar and assume that everyone who thinks differently to them is an idiot.

I don’t particularly like Trump but I can see why so many people voted for him over KH. I thought her campaign was awful and that, combined with the obvious decline in Biden, meant they became a pretty toxic ‘side’.

Whether you like him or hate him, Trump was pitched as a ‘disruptor’ or (due to the many legal challenges), an underdog being repeatedly pummelled by the ‘big state’. To be fair to his campaign, there were moments of PR genius - driving the dump truck, serving in McDonald’s, returning to Pennsylvania etc. In the middle of his appointment, there have been some good things too and the idea that he’s restoring ‘common sense’ to politics is undoubtedly a vote winner.

Many of us, on both sides of politics, are weary of politicians and their self-serving interests. Look at the threads on MN about the Labour party - so many feel betrayed and let down by the system. Trump, Farage and other populist leaders can be seen as the antidote and when their supporters are called thick, stupid or (famously) ‘a basket of deplorables’, the movement only grows.

I’d describe myself as a centrist and a Libertarian. I have family in the US and I really enjoy hearing the story from both sides. Dismissing them as ‘idiots’ because they see the world differently, is not a smart move. I’ve gained so much from trying to understand both sides.

StandFirm · 16/08/2025 12:34

littlesilvertop · 16/08/2025 10:50

The idea that Trump supporters are ‘thick’ only helps to fuel and grow the movement. It’s an old trope rolled out by people who look on from afar and assume that everyone who thinks differently to them is an idiot.

I don’t particularly like Trump but I can see why so many people voted for him over KH. I thought her campaign was awful and that, combined with the obvious decline in Biden, meant they became a pretty toxic ‘side’.

Whether you like him or hate him, Trump was pitched as a ‘disruptor’ or (due to the many legal challenges), an underdog being repeatedly pummelled by the ‘big state’. To be fair to his campaign, there were moments of PR genius - driving the dump truck, serving in McDonald’s, returning to Pennsylvania etc. In the middle of his appointment, there have been some good things too and the idea that he’s restoring ‘common sense’ to politics is undoubtedly a vote winner.

Many of us, on both sides of politics, are weary of politicians and their self-serving interests. Look at the threads on MN about the Labour party - so many feel betrayed and let down by the system. Trump, Farage and other populist leaders can be seen as the antidote and when their supporters are called thick, stupid or (famously) ‘a basket of deplorables’, the movement only grows.

I’d describe myself as a centrist and a Libertarian. I have family in the US and I really enjoy hearing the story from both sides. Dismissing them as ‘idiots’ because they see the world differently, is not a smart move. I’ve gained so much from trying to understand both sides.

By all means understanding grievances from all sides is extremely important. However populists are not the antidote, and that's what's so hard because there is a sizeable part of the population that feels hopeless. It's hard to accept that the alternative is even worse than what you are rejecting today.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 16/08/2025 14:40

The thing is, Trump IS the big state, whilst pretending otherwise.

TalkToTheHand123 · 16/08/2025 20:56

I can understand people voting and supporting Trump, but to state Zelensky started the war and is Biden's war is baffling.

Petuniaspetal · 17/08/2025 06:19

He is appealing to the money men and people who are focusing on his immigration policies. What comes along with that though is the removal of alot of their rights and freedoms as a person and employee.

I think he is rascist, narcissist and an abuser and should never have been anywhere near the white house. He is the monkey for all the far right loons who surround him ( Stephen Millar as a prime example) and because trump is filling his pockets while in office, and avoiding jail, he doesn't care.

Be careful what you wish for because the most radical changes in one area often come along with changes that will offend and hurt you in more fundamental ways.

StandFirm · 17/08/2025 16:48

TalkToTheHand123 · 16/08/2025 20:56

I can understand people voting and supporting Trump, but to state Zelensky started the war and is Biden's war is baffling.

Talking of Zelenskyy, I fear that tomorrow's summit at the White House is going to be another monumental slap in the face for Europeans - that might be why they're going as a whole delegation rather than sending him alone to face orange dude.

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