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Dominic Cummings is Musk's informer

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trapforsanta · 12/01/2025 09:02

It's been revealed in multiple media sources after much speculation that Dominic Cummings has been whatsapping Musk with strategies to undermine the UK government and our democracy. For a while commentators have been speculating that Musk must have a hard right UK informant, since he's not across any detail himself and really has no understanding of the UK or our political system himself (see his comments about asking the King to dissolve the government). He's clearly been radicalised by watching Tommy Robinson's videos, and now we discover it's Cummings up to his dark tricks again.

I don't think I've ever wished harm to another person but honestly I wish Cummings would just bugger off for good.

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Hoppingabout · 13/01/2025 09:11

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 09:07

Nobody can confirm it’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s an opinion.

Yes tricky to confirm a negative. From the Daily Mail.

AlisonDonut · 13/01/2025 09:13

There is a good way of ensuring that external parties cannot disrupt your government and that's the be a stable government. Rather than one built on lies.

EasternStandard · 13/01/2025 09:17

AlisonDonut · 13/01/2025 09:13

There is a good way of ensuring that external parties cannot disrupt your government and that's the be a stable government. Rather than one built on lies.

People are too into X

Better off to look at what’s going on with policies / economics and the failings causing it

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 09:45

AlisonDonut · 13/01/2025 09:13

There is a good way of ensuring that external parties cannot disrupt your government and that's the be a stable government. Rather than one built on lies.

That went well for Ukraine.

AlisonDonut · 13/01/2025 09:47

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 09:45

That went well for Ukraine.

Are you saying that you think the USA will invade the UK using force?

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 09:48

AlisonDonut · 13/01/2025 09:47

Are you saying that you think the USA will invade the UK using force?

Obviously not or those would be the words I used. I’m saying what you read in my post.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 09:52

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 08:53

Next time you and noble(ahem) poo-poo something the Daily Mail says, may I refer you to this thread?

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

We could say the same about Musk’s tweets

oldwhyno · 13/01/2025 09:52

"since he's not across any detail himself"

"across" really is wanky media buzzword bollocks that needs to die a death in 2025.

AlisonDonut · 13/01/2025 09:56

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 09:48

Obviously not or those would be the words I used. I’m saying what you read in my post.

You said 'that went well for Ukraine'.

So maybe you could explain what Elon Musk commenting on the UK's lies and failings has to do with Russia invading Ukraine? What lies did Ukraine build their government on that meant Russia had to invade?

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 10:00

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 09:52

We could say the same about Musk’s tweets

Could we? Calling an elected politician a “genocide rape apologist” and a witch? Defending Tommy Robinson? Lying about Starmer and saying civil war in the UK is inevitable? If you sincerely think that’s OK you should be worried about yourself.

Barbadossunset · 13/01/2025 10:05

"since he's not across any detail himself"
"across" really is wanky media buzzword bollocks that needs to die a death in 2025

What does it mean? I’m obviously out of the loop as I’ve never heard the phrase.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 10:13

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 10:00

Could we? Calling an elected politician a “genocide rape apologist” and a witch? Defending Tommy Robinson? Lying about Starmer and saying civil war in the UK is inevitable? If you sincerely think that’s OK you should be worried about yourself.

I was referring to the tweets about the issue of the grooming gangs being ignored . Obviously. 🙄

I’ve already condemned the tweets about Jess Phillips.

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 10:16

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 10:13

I was referring to the tweets about the issue of the grooming gangs being ignored . Obviously. 🙄

I’ve already condemned the tweets about Jess Phillips.

Edited

It wasn’t obvious at all. It always helps to be specific and say exactly what you mean.

LesbianNana · 13/01/2025 10:17

Rummly · 12/01/2025 10:24

Sorry, but that comment really does show signs of paranoia.

I don’t take anything Musk says as truer or more significant than anyone else’s posts. Why would people be under the spell of this supposed political Svengali?

I initially laugh emoji’d your comment but didn’t want you to think I was laughing at you and not with you. “Under the spell of this political Svengali” made me laugh. 😁

LesbianNana · 13/01/2025 10:20

Mittens67 · 12/01/2025 10:21

Both are despicable men who have the potential to cause significant harm given the billions available. It is NOT like any other person or politician expressing and opinion. Musk controls information which so much of the world takes as fact.
Our government needs to do all they can to stop this.
Trump and Musk’s desire for power knows no bounds. They are on a par with Putin in that respect. Cummings is utterly mad but clever enough to be extremely dangerous. We have seen him use a stupid leader as his puppet before and it didn’t end well for the UK.

This is extreme lingo.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 10:22

This from Ayaan Hirsi Ali is interesting

Ayaan Hirsi Ali:* *I don’t know if I would call it disagreement. I would say I have a different perspective obviously because of my background. I grew up a Muslim. I lived in Muslim countries and I come at the problem differently. And around 2003, I was publicizing the abuse of Muslim women by Muslim men in the Netherlands. One anecdote I remember from a well-known Dutch publicist was when he sat me down and he said, “You are trying to draw attention to abuse against Muslim women. Let me tell you about the middle classes in Europe: They’re indifferent.” And I remember asking him if they will be indifferent if European women are abused? And he said, “No, if there’s a blonde girl on national television and she’s been sexually abused by one of these, there’ll be huge outrage. The feminists will not stand for it.”
Unfortunately, fast-forward to around 2013, all the messages I’m getting are about these grooming gangs in Britain—young men chasing women, raping them. I started diving into the subject, and what I discover, unfortunately, is the systematic sexual abuse of white working-class girls and women by men, mostly Muslim. And what the British have come to call grooming gangs—that is, sexual and the systematic sexual abuse of white working-class girls and women by men, mostly Muslim—was dismissed as “they’re slags.” I’ve heard the phrase “white trash” over and over again. And so there’s a class element to this. And the same reasoning that was applied to look away from the abuse of Muslim women was also applied to the abuse against these white girls—not just by men in power, but by feminists, mostly by feminists.
I think it’s very important to get all of these perspectives on the table to get a full picture. I’m coming at this by saying, it’s very important to understand not just why the social workers were silent, why the police were silent, why politicians are silent, but let’s also do the other side. Why is it that these men are committing these crimes in this way? What is wrong with the families and the wider community of these men? Why do they tolerate it against their own women and then against women that they don’t think of as women? And we have to answer that question.
And once you go down that path, then you open the door to the issues of immigration, the failure of integration, the role of Islam in this. And the one key question that Europeans simply don’t want to talk about is: What do we do about it?”

” There are different layers of fear. There is the naked threat of “If you do anything about this issue, we will come and rape you, burn you, kill you.” And these people do act on these threats. I’ve been living with protection for a very long time. I know exactly what I’m talking about. And so the threat from the immigrant Muslim men and their families—whether it is Islamist-driven or tribal-driven or whatever it is—is absolutely key.
There’s another layer of fear which is more sinister, which is that some of the politicians have come to depend on the vote of those immigrants. And so the white working classes numerically are no longer important to them. They don’t serve them. “
www.thefp.com/p/bari-weiss-uk-grooming-gangs-cowardice-of-the-west

1dayatatime · 13/01/2025 10:26

"Anyway I'm not stopping people from discussing it. I'm just pointing out that it's a silly title. Statement of fact"

Exactly- Musk is clearly posting about the CSA scandal for his own political gains. Equally so is Badenoch and Farage doing so for their own political gains. And we can add that Labour at the time this abuse started to come to light continuing to today also sought to downplay it for their own political self interest. There should be absolutely no suprise that all politicians are using this scandal for their own political benefit. So on that basis the story on Musk and Cummings simply stating stuff we already believe and is therefore pretty much irrelevant.

What is relevant is the speedy implementation of the Jay inquiry's 20 recommendations and the postings by Musk's publicity has at least helped one recommendation find its way into the Child Wellbeing and Schools Bill.

Is he working with Dominic Cummings? Well I've seen no actual evidence of this, but it would be logical for him to do so.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 10:27

BIossomtoes · 13/01/2025 10:16

It wasn’t obvious at all. It always helps to be specific and say exactly what you mean.

I totally agree which is why I hope@GrammarTeacher comes back to explain the following comment she made about my posts

“You clearly have no idea of the changes put in place in all services since Rotherham. “
Id like to know what extra information she has that she thinks I don’t have . I think it’s important information to share.

LesbianNana · 13/01/2025 10:32

JustMyView13 · 12/01/2025 10:34

Because he presents opinion as fact.
Because he purchased one of the largest social media platforms and uses it to spread disinformation,

Led by the donkeys recently done an interesting video - well worth a look.

You mean the same platform that was completely controlled by the Biden Administration and the DOJ before Musk bought it? As was brought out in court and all the documentation, emails etc. released in the Twitter files and in court? That platform?

Just like they controlled Facebook and this was also released in court and Zuckerberg testified to it and released all documentation in court?

LesbianNana · 13/01/2025 11:29

noblegiraffe · 12/01/2025 12:18

Don't get me wrong, Biden/Harris were awful. But Trump lead an insurrection, which is a pretty big fucking deal. He's also a convicted felon. The mainstream media in the US were willing to portray Biden and Harris in a more positive light and overlook their obvious flaws for so long, because Trump 2.0 was unthinkable. Trump was deplatformed from twitter along with other conspiracists.

Musk not only re-platformed them (e.g. RFK, Alex Jones), he then actively boosted their views. He dragged right the Overton Window on what is acceptable discourse. For a British perspective, he is not only tweeting 'Free Tommy Robinson' but has reposted Tommy Robinson's disinformation film and suggested that everyone should watch it. He said that Farage isn't fit to lead Reform (who Musk wants to run the UK) because Farage doesn't support Tommy Robinson.

If you were on twitter in the lead-up to the presidential election you would have been completely bombarded with pro-Trump messaging from Musk, with reach and impact that you absolutely couldn't have paid for.

And if you don't think Trump knows that, look how close Musk is to him now. Every video. Trump has even had to tell people that Musk isn't eligible to be President. If you hadn't been paying attention, you might be surprised about how Musk is always there.

And if you still aren't sure of Musk's influence, take a look at what Zuckerberg is now saying about the social media he controls. He is absolutely following Musk's lead there. Why do you think that is?

First of all, no he did not lead an insurrection. Completely false. I’m not even going to get into the Banana Republic lawfare used against him. Please read Three Felonies a Day if you think it couldn’t happen to you.

Trump and others were deplatformed from Twitter because the Biden Admin and the DOJ controlled Twitter! Do people really not know this?!

Sigh. I’m not even going to get into algorithms. Look them up if you are wondering why you receive certain tweets or videos.

Haha the social media Zuckerberg controls. I guess, again, nobody followed his testimony before congress in which he blew the whistle on the control the Biden administration had over the moderation of his platform. I guess he is finally feeling the relief of not having the Biden admin call him screaming at him to take down a meme they didn’t like.

Radiatorvalves · 13/01/2025 11:36

Hoppingabout · 12/01/2025 09:11

Who is saying that? Are we blaming the messenger again rather than listening to the message?

Elon Musk has done this country a great service highlighting child grooming gangs. Just because Labour don't enjoy him pointing out their faults doesn't make him wrong. And Labour saw nothing wrong in interfering in US politics so they can't complain now.

Bollocks.

OpheliaWasntMad · 13/01/2025 11:54

Radiatorvalves · 13/01/2025 11:36

Bollocks.

Is that the best you can do?

LesbianNana · 13/01/2025 12:05

Radiatorvalves · 13/01/2025 11:36

Bollocks.

I’m convinced.

Radiatorvalves · 13/01/2025 12:17

Seriously I don’t have the time or inclination to educate people who are gullible enough to think Musk is a good guy or highlighted the Pakistani gang issues. Why don’t you spend time listening to the journalist who did the vast majority of the work.

Heres a link… podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-news-agents/id1640878689?i=1000683054586

AlisonDonut · 13/01/2025 12:22

1dayatatime · 13/01/2025 10:26

"Anyway I'm not stopping people from discussing it. I'm just pointing out that it's a silly title. Statement of fact"

Exactly- Musk is clearly posting about the CSA scandal for his own political gains. Equally so is Badenoch and Farage doing so for their own political gains. And we can add that Labour at the time this abuse started to come to light continuing to today also sought to downplay it for their own political self interest. There should be absolutely no suprise that all politicians are using this scandal for their own political benefit. So on that basis the story on Musk and Cummings simply stating stuff we already believe and is therefore pretty much irrelevant.

What is relevant is the speedy implementation of the Jay inquiry's 20 recommendations and the postings by Musk's publicity has at least helped one recommendation find its way into the Child Wellbeing and Schools Bill.

Is he working with Dominic Cummings? Well I've seen no actual evidence of this, but it would be logical for him to do so.

Do you think Starmer is ignoring all this, for HIS political gain?