So does "far right" mean you're concerned about the impacts of mass immigration?

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Cause I'm far right if so then!

Genuinely interested to hear what people consider as being "far right". I put it in quotation marks cause the term is so over-used incorrectly, it's actually lost all meaning.

So are you in favour of us having open borders with the whole world?

@MilitantFawcett yes it's very interesting. If you look at it in terms of overall GDP it doesn't look good for them, but if you analyse in terms of GDP per capita they are doing better than the UK despite no immigration and low birth rates. GDP per capita is a better measure of living standards.

We need to think about how an economy can thrive without increasing its population as a world with billions more people is simply not sustainable.

Ok I missed that

You've obviously made up your mind (so no idea why you are asking) because you say the term of "over-used incorrectly". What might be interesting is if you would care to define "mass immigration" in your goady title, because there is nowhere in the world that has, or advocates, mass immigration. It tends to suggest "floods of immigrants to a place", "excessive numbers of immigrants" and "anti-immigration rhetoric based on falsehoods". All of which yes, I would call far right. So if that ios what you mean, then yes, I agree - you are far right.

Please explain how the UK has open borders with the whole world. That is simply ridiculous rubbish.

Far right currently is what being conservative used to mean as the pendulum has swung so far left.

I know we don't.

A poster stated that if you have concerns over numbers you are far right. I asked if they are therefore in favour of open borders... theoretically.

I think most westerners would agree the situation in Hong Kong is not ideal where the local culture and language is being diluted/slowly wiped out. But the same people think it's racist to notice this in parts of the UK.

The thing is humans have been doing this sort of thing since time immemorial. There are winners and losers.

I will certainly complain if people vote to damage the UK. Their vote is their responsibility, not mine.

Because this stuff gets polled globally, we know that the UK is one of the least racist and most open places in the world.

If you find yourself calling the large majority of the world 'far right' (or bigoted twats, if you prefer), might it just possibly be your calibration that's off.

It feels rather grandiose (perhaps even colonialist?) to maintain that your country’s Overton window is the correct one and everyone else is the bigot.

To wit

The Rape for Profit gangs in my region are white. They are white in other areas too and long pre-date 50s, 60s, etc immigration to the UK.

The reasons police in Oldham, Rotherham etc. overlooked the rape gangs are the same reasons police overlook them here.

I've been called far right because of my concerns over immigration. I come from a family that are paid Labour members, but even they are now chatting about it. Hmm

The reasons police in Oldham, Rotherham etc. overlooked the rape gangs are the same reasons police overlook them here.

Anyone who buys the "fear of being seen as racist" is either incredibly naive or deluded.

What? Entire police forces? Councils? Social worker teams?
Institutions that ,ironically, have been proven to be systematically racist?

Or the demographic of the girls played a part , never mind corruption, bribes, blackmail and possibly even taking part.

However , the "fear of racism" play not only was it a good excuse (because so many bought it) but it also directed anger and attention some place else.

@confusedeffie

If you are concerned about the numbers of people immigrating to the UK, then yes that makes you far right. You may not want to believe it but that’s the truth.

Is that a general rule (ie without limit), or a comment on numbers relative to today’s rate?

What about left-wing arguments against mass migration? Are those concerns far-right too? Or do you think there are no true left-wing arguments to place limits under any circumstances on migration?

Yes..its all over the news..the rape of white girls ignored because of who they were raped by

😂 too true

Those girls weren't ignored because they were white. They were ignored because of misogyny and class. A police officer wrote in a report that it was a 'lifestyle choice'. A white police officer.

No one cared about them because they were seen as unimportant. If they had been the children of MPs and CEOs, they wouldn't have been ignored.

They were predated upon because they were vulnerable. The people who didn't take them seriously were predominantly white.

Just in the past year 3 police officers from GMP have been on trial /sacked for sexually assaulting a child when responding to a call,(the audacity!!)rape and the rape of a child.
All white btw.

Same police forces that brutalised and strip searched women.

There was no fear. Those girls meant nothing to them. It was a handy excuse to shift blame and focus.

@username299 , Musk is an irrelevance to me.

Good for you.

Yes - In an ideal world I believe we should have open borders. Admittedly, we are a long way from where that would be possible. Hopefully that generations that come after us will do a better job of looking after our world and those who are less fortunate.

I am not sure how you can be in favour of a fairer society and then be against migration. I am well aware that such wolves in sheep’s clothing exist but it’s all for political gain.

"Do you believe someone who is not ethnically english say can ever be as british as you? Would you ever consider someone who is non white to be British?"

I would throw it back at you. Do you believe someone born in Delhi to white English parents is just as Indian as someone born in Delhi to indigenous Hindu parents? If not, why not? If yes, why are they just as Indian?

Likewise in Kenya, Nigeria, Zambia countries I know well, there are many white people born in those countries whose parents and even grand-parents were born there and I can assure you that none of the majority black Kenyans, Nigerians or Zambians think the white people born there are Kenyan, Nigerian or Zambian in the same way as they are.

Why do you think that is? Do you think the majority Africans are all just mistaken or wrong? Why do you think the majority black Africans are so confused and unable to realise that the white people born there are actually just as Kenyan as they are? Can they be educated out of it?