Starmer says we are going to have more money in our pockets (new year's speach

[JoyousPinkPeer]

Do you beleive him or do you think he is a liar?

This is very true.

The Greens aren’t dead, support for them is growing among young voters and those disenchanted with Labour. And how you typed Labour being unelectable with a straight face when they achieved a 156 seat majority less than six months ago I really don’t know. Four years is an eternity in politics and I’d lay money on the country looking very different in 2029.

Four years is an eternity in politics and I’d lay money on the country looking very different in 2029.

You may well be right - in what way do you see the country looking very different in 2029?

I don’t know, not being in possession of a crystal ball. Who could have predicted how it would change in the four years after 2019?

Why be,I eve anything he says. They only got elected a few months ago on what was a tissue of lies.

And there are few certainties in life but Labour putting up taxes and spending is one of them so despite the lies, we should have all know what we would get.

Only if you work in the public sector or are a train driver. Those in the private sector won't and likely to have less.

Always jam tomorrow. Like energy bills coming down as we swapped to renewables. All twaddle, all lies.

The fact that they were asking the regulators for ideas to generate growth doesn’t inspire confidence does it. Yeah you just made it more expensive to hire people, well do e dumbasses. Also echo the point that everyone was screaming about bond yields and the bind vigilantes when Truss managed to increase it, Reeves has already surpassed her. Well done Labour 🙄

Energy bills are going up again in the summer
I've never paid as much as I am and I live in a modest house and don't use any more than I have historically.
Soon it will be more than the council tax ( which is bad enough )
The bills are just going up and up ( water is too)
Not sure how people are meant to pay these continuing rides

Rises

I’m not “anti” Labour or Starmer but it was a stupid thing to say becuase its impossible to think how more money is going to get into our pockets and Labour haven’t shared any ideas. We all know that bills are going to rise in April and wages in general aren’t so HOW exactly are people going to have more money?

Your choice, a want, not a need

Well I won't be, because my job is being off-shored

I don’t think Starmer “lied” about this. He’s a politician so makes optimistic statements about what he’ll achieve, as they all do. I think he’s hopelessly wrong. But that’s not lying.

He may or may not be a proven liar more generally, as others have alleged. But he’s certainly a stinking hypocrite. In company with many other Labour politicians.

I still believe Labour will get two terms though. Interesting, however, that 20 Labour councillors have recently resigned their party membership and Labour’s been losing council seats steadily since the general election.

I think he is a liar who doesn't think about implications. For example the so called great fixed fare bus tickets mean it now costs me 6 quid return to travel less than 3 miles in total and same price to travel 30 miles! Obviously walking would be the solution if I didn't have arthritis, plantar and a fair bit to carry each day. Idiot policy which will result in more car use and/or less public transport use. It discriminates against people with disabilities not bad enough for PiP etc or older people doing shorter journeys. Also a rise massively above inflation and pay rises. Grr. Labour are so not on the side of working people.

Plus the 6 from Newcastle. So that's 26 over a few days

Yep daughter is now struggling more, bus fare has doubled, she has to use bus for unpaid placements, (Uni student) on max loan because of my income, so poorer students have larger debts and now increased costs with rent and energy.

To work for the Gov to become a teacher. Madness, no bursary help for her subjects.

@BIossomtoes

"And how you typed Labour being unelectable with a straight face when they achieved a 156 seat majority less than six months ago I really don’t know."

Whilst Labour did indeed achieve a 156 seat majority- they did this with the lowest share of the popular vote in over a 100 years.

So they are supported by only a third of voters. Which I imagine will shrink as we get closer to 2029 and the economy deteriorates.

They did but its wafer thin.....going to snap easily. Getting the majority they did was a joke yo democracy

Ahahaaaa!

Yes, precisely, hence the delusion and inevitable decline continues. Frankly, at this point, it's becoming more of a death spiral.

God, most of the comments on this thread are depressing and just emphasise the point I made. People arguing over which of the pathetic excuses for proposed leaders would be the least useless when all of them are totally incapable of doing anything to improve the UK and not one of these "parties" has been able to articulate a remotely plausible and cohesive policy programme that would start to improve things. Yet people are quite happy fighting like rats in a sack over the rotten remaining crumbs about which incompetent moron they prefer.

Bus fares haven’t doubled, they’re capped at £3 instead of 2.

The speech is not aimed at you. You're doing better than 94 per cent of the country.

Ps: your kids going to state school now genuinely IS very good for the economy - and I suspect it will be v good for them too

How is it good for the economy? Not even Labour are claiming that!
How is it good fir kids who are happy and settled to be forced out of their schools? All the research shows how damaging it can be to change schools, especially mid-year.