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How can any Donald Trump fans think that he is intelligent?

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Workingclasslass · 24/12/2024 08:23

Donald Trump has just done a big speech to Am fest turning point. He literally said that drugs are bad like fentanyl they ruin your face. They ruin your looks. They ruin your teeth and nobody has said that before and we are going to tell people that drugs are bad.
So basically, just like the just say no campaign that was there back in the day and of course people have as there’s literally pictures of people all over the Internet and every government has said this. This is what I mean. I want to know how people can think he’s so bloody original and intelligent saying stuff which is stupid because it’s already been said before.
The next thing he said at that speech how vaccines were linked to autism which we know full well that’s debunked then how he says how now it was like one in so many thousand people that had autism now it’s one in 36 but causation and correlation doesn’t mean to say that that’s to do with a bloody vaccines .
so yes I want to know how any Donald Trump fans can listen to any of this and think wow he’s so intelligent when he really isn’t?

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ObsidianTree · 22/01/2025 11:14

People that voted for him probably have a lower IQ than him. So maybe what he says they can understand it more as it's closer to their level of understanding. Also dangerous for things like vaccines as his supporters take his words as facts.

Sausagenbacon · 22/01/2025 11:19

People will vote for someone they despise, if they feel he is on 'their side'.
They won't vote for people who despise them. Remember Clinton referring to 'deplorables'?
This thread is full of hate towards people who happen to disagree with the poster.

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:23

Don't worry the aptly initialled DT has now released the violent gangster jailed for running the internet Silk Road. So all future drugs in USA will again be available via a white American man making billions, instead of coming through S American cartels. Meth will still make your teeth fall out and fentanyl will continue to rot the rest. Manufacturing will move to US and millions will continue to be made.

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:29

🍿 for when the fascist Trump and fascist Musk have their massive public fallout. Maybe that Hulk Hogan geezer can get them in a ring together.

Adamante · 22/01/2025 11:29

Sausagenbacon · 22/01/2025 11:19

People will vote for someone they despise, if they feel he is on 'their side'.
They won't vote for people who despise them. Remember Clinton referring to 'deplorables'?
This thread is full of hate towards people who happen to disagree with the poster.

Indeed. The dehumanising and othering language used towards people who voted differently is completely out of control on social media, right here on MN I have seen stupid, thick, morons, racist, fascist, misogynist, drooling, cunts etc etc. Yet these people think they’re the good, decent people. The lack of insight is utterly depressing.

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:30

Racist, fascist misogynist. These are perfectly adequate descriptors, not insults.

BettyBardMacDonald · 22/01/2025 11:31

Sausagenbacon · 22/01/2025 11:19

People will vote for someone they despise, if they feel he is on 'their side'.
They won't vote for people who despise them. Remember Clinton referring to 'deplorables'?
This thread is full of hate towards people who happen to disagree with the poster.

Clinton was absolutely correct.

It's beyond "disagree."

These people are ignorant, racist, jingoistic white supremecists.

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:33

IQ = 100 is an average. The figures speak for themselves.

Adamante · 22/01/2025 11:33

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:30

Racist, fascist misogynist. These are perfectly adequate descriptors, not insults.

They’re opinions only.

BettyBardMacDonald · 22/01/2025 11:33

CharSiu · 22/01/2025 10:41

My brothers moved to America decades ago. They support Trump. They are very well educated and also an ethnic minority as are Chinese. They attended really good UK Universities and got sponsored to study at post grad level in America.

They just want to pay less tax that’s it really, they don’t like a big welfare state as it means more tax. They are the the living embodiment of the American dream. I think what many don’t understand is that some Immigrants are very willing to pull up the ladder after them. Every single person I know who really hand wrings over immigration in the Uk has been white. It doesn’t mean ethnic minorities are not concerned or supportive but I think white guilt pays a huge part here.

So they reaped untold benefits but now don't want to support the society that made it possible for them to prosper.

That's despicable.

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:34

Facts. Not alternative facts either.

Adamante · 22/01/2025 11:35

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:34

Facts. Not alternative facts either.

In your opinion.

InterestQ · 22/01/2025 11:36

He knows his audience. And his audience is big. He tapped into exactly what he needed to
tap in to to win the election extremely comprehensively. The Democrats were too busy calling Trump supporters thick to realise that their vote counts just as much. Kamala Harris was also not a strong enough candidate. If Hilary Clinton couldn’t beat him, with her last name and her experience, then Harris didn’t stand a chance. The Democrats really fucked up - and hopefully they can learn to be less sneering and listen to what the electorate want because otherwise Vance is in January 2029.

Tomatotater · 22/01/2025 11:41

BettyBardMacDonald · 22/01/2025 11:33

So they reaped untold benefits but now don't want to support the society that made it possible for them to prosper.

That's despicable.

Or maybe they want to protect that society? You have to have some kind of prevention of illegal immigration, otherwise the very thing people are escaping comes to the places they are escaping to. People coming into the UK, terrorising their neighbourhood, committing crime, imposing their own values and belief system on the community they have entered doesn't harm someone who lives in a nice house in a nice area. It affects for example, Muslim girls who cannot go to school without being intimidated, or women not being allowed to work, or not being able to escape abusive marriages, or finding out their Sharia marriage isn't legally binding. Just as having a community blighted by drug related violence doesn't affect people snorting Coke at dinner parties in Beverley Hills.

Moier · 22/01/2025 11:42

God help the world.
Loads of Americans have been brainwashed.

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:44

I'm sorry that you are unaware of the difference between FACT, observed, recorded authenticated by assorted trusted and verifiable sources and OPINION, the product of the operation of one's mind sifting a variety of jnformation which is frequently described as the result of 'doing my own research'. They may coincide, or not. They are not interchangeable. One IS. The other MAY BE.

Mrsbloggz · 22/01/2025 11:47

In terms of intellect trump has 💩 for brains, his talent is to do with conning people.
I think he's going to make mincemeat out of Elon musk, and that I will enjoy 😊.

Adamante · 22/01/2025 11:48

InterestQ · 22/01/2025 11:36

He knows his audience. And his audience is big. He tapped into exactly what he needed to
tap in to to win the election extremely comprehensively. The Democrats were too busy calling Trump supporters thick to realise that their vote counts just as much. Kamala Harris was also not a strong enough candidate. If Hilary Clinton couldn’t beat him, with her last name and her experience, then Harris didn’t stand a chance. The Democrats really fucked up - and hopefully they can learn to be less sneering and listen to what the electorate want because otherwise Vance is in January 2029.

Yes, I often wonder if those screaming on the internet about thick, drooling racists voting for Trump ever stop to think how did we get here? How, when you’ve had a democrat government for the last three out of four cycles did we get to a place where you can now declare that over half of your country are thick racists, when we also know there were significant leaps in Trump voters within ethnic communities - Hispanics, Muslims etc. And how is it happening all over the Western World?

Sausagenbacon · 22/01/2025 11:53

I think that ONCE you've started using RANDOM upper CASE letters, you're better off going and having a lie DOWN

Adamante · 22/01/2025 11:55

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:44

I'm sorry that you are unaware of the difference between FACT, observed, recorded authenticated by assorted trusted and verifiable sources and OPINION, the product of the operation of one's mind sifting a variety of jnformation which is frequently described as the result of 'doing my own research'. They may coincide, or not. They are not interchangeable. One IS. The other MAY BE.

So it is observed, recorded & authenticated that ALL Trump voters are racist & misogynistic, stupid etc? And as ever you resort to the implication of stupidity when disagreed with 🙄.

YOU have “done your own research” and YOU have decided that Trump voters are these things. YOU have formed an opinion and then you come onto MN and state that your opinions are facts? I fear it is you that doesn’t know the difference but I suspect almost eveyone else on this thread does so I will leave them to make up their own mind…

NiftyKoala · 22/01/2025 12:06

Workingclasslass · 24/12/2024 10:12

I’ll tell you what though if you watch the video he’s very very obsessed with the fact that people think Elon Musk is controlling him. He looks a bit paranoid and a bit realisation that he can’t get rid of this Elon Musk. I think that’s gonna blow up soon.

I completely agree.

user22446688 · 22/01/2025 12:10

Serpentstooth · 22/01/2025 11:23

Don't worry the aptly initialled DT has now released the violent gangster jailed for running the internet Silk Road. So all future drugs in USA will again be available via a white American man making billions, instead of coming through S American cartels. Meth will still make your teeth fall out and fentanyl will continue to rot the rest. Manufacturing will move to US and millions will continue to be made.

Yes, I was going to say this. I'd say it's unbelievable, but nothing is unbelievable with him.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7e0jve875o

Ross Ulbricht, with hair blowing in the wind, pictured in front of a large tree trunk

Trump pardons Silk Road creator Ross Ulbricht

Trump said he had called Ulbricht's mother to let her know he had granted her son a full pardon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7e0jve875o

Atissues · 22/01/2025 12:19

I think calling supporters ‘thick and racist’ no longer works. It’s a bit like using ‘far right’ to shut down debate. People are really bored of it. I think it is shaming people into changing their point of view. I point it out to my children and say it’s unacceptable. Free speech is an integral part of a democratic society.

I am always happy to hear opposing views. I loved watching debates at the school club and in real life people know I will listen and not close down speech. I may not agree and that’s fine, I can be friends with someone and not agree with someone on every subject.

I am amazed how many people admit they were going to be watching the inauguration and how many appreciate some (and in some cases most) of Trumps plans. They say they wish we had a leader who cares about the UK. People from all walks of U.K. life - Parents, Eastern Europeans, Africans, Middle class retirees, wealthy business owners, factory workers, farmers, civil servants, teachers to name a few etc etc. I have many social circles and mix with so many people. I know people who hate him too and that’s okay and others that hated him and then researched him and admit he has valid points in some areas.

In the last month I have discovered the majority of people I have spoken to (and I have a very large social circle over several towns and from many walks of life) are very unhappy with the British Government’s (Labour and Conservative) and that includes people who voted Labour.

I hope the Americans are happy with their choice.

bombastix · 22/01/2025 12:21

I am not a fan at all. But Trump is not stupid, he is a clever man and it pays to look at what he does rather than what he says. What someone says in politics is nearly meaningless.

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