Why do some people think Trump is a good man?

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There are a lot of people, even in the UK who act like you have offended their mum or dad if you point out what an awful person he clearly is. Even his own family don't like him and plenty of people have said how his relationships with his own children are merely transactional.

If people like him, is it because they are fascists themselves deep down? Or is it some type of mass hysteria?

Well I can see how people would say he has toxic masculinity, but then so did Boris and his sexual shenanigans.

An odd comparison since Johnson was a terrible prime minister.

Thank you for this insightful post - I think it has answered my questions to some extent about the mindsets of people who seem to support this man.

Incidentally, I don't see his relationship with Elon Musk lasting very long. I predict a big, nasty and public fall out.

Quite. In fact, he's another type of Trump populist leader. Indeed, he was a terrible, self-serving prime minister.

@GentleFlower I wasn't really talking about the Covid restrictions. And I think Corbyn would also have been a bad prime minister.

I don't think he's a good man, but I think he's a better man for the job of POTUS than Biden, and so do the voting majority in the US. The western world is in dire need of tough leaders.

He was terrible?? I didnt agree with most of the lockdown measures which basically punctuated his leadership but Corbyn would have done the same.

Are you one of those people who started believing that Covid didn't exist, that hospitals were empty and started listening to Qanon?

Biden didn't run. Last time he did run, he beat Trump.

In fact, there are those who blame Obama for the rise of Trump in the first place because Obama stopped Biden from running in 2016. Had he run, then, Trump would probably never have got a taste of the WH. Biden is suffering cognitive decline now, of course but he was more than capable in 2016.

People who work from home are lazy now?I've heard it all. Tell that to my dp who works from home 8am til 9pm with very few breaks because he's a workaholic basically.

Your post makes zero sense @GentleFlower.

I have a theory that there is a percentage of people who hate the fact that politicians appear to be better than them. By that I don't just mean "do-gooder lefty nanny-state holier-than-thou" politicians, but all politicians, left and right. They stand on the stage and pontificate and tell people how to live their lives, as if their shit doesn't stink (is what these people think).

Then along comes Trump. Yes, he's an asshole. But this means that finally, you get to vote for a POTUS who is a bigger asshole than you are. Heck, maybe there's hope for me yet, if this asshole can get to be President!

He's a do-er and takes no shit. If Starmer had his ear tickled by a bullet he'd still be on sick leave.

My theory about why Trump had such a non-response to his own assassination attempt is that sociopaths are unable to empathise with themselves as well as others. They are unconcerned with the possibility of their own demise. Unfortunately, his actions put other people at risk as well as himself.

People do not voted him because he is nice. There have been quite a lot of analysts available on election results and why they voted for him if you really are interested. Go on about his personality and you will get more and more frustrated.
Also, he never said to people to inject bleach to cure Covid. Can you send the specific video where you hear him advising people to do this? This makes me believe you are one of those people that by bashing Trump you help him. Most things are there to check and see if you go to the source. The hysteria comes from the democrats that were convinced they would pull the same stunt from 2020 again. They told lies and lies about everything during the last four years.

I think plenty of non- MAGA people in the US who don't actually like Trump voted for him.

What I don't understand people in the UK like Gentle Flower who look up to Trump and seem to hang on his every word. There is a whole section of society in the UK that do this. Maybe they are just the same people who voted reform.

The same people make excuses for Putin, blame Ukraine for its own invasion and think lockdowns should never have happened. It's like a script.

This is the actual footage of him suggesting to use disinfectant 'insure the body'

It's not just the US this is happening. The far right are growing in power throughout Europe. People want an alternative to the status quo and for some, Trump represents that.

Additionally there's a lot of misinformation out there and populism offers simple solutions to complex problems.

Well... you have to be kidding me that he put other people at risk! Did you miss the reports on how attendees to the rally were trying to inform police at the event that the shooter was on the rooftop? Did not strike you as a bit unreasonable that there was no security on that roof? It was the lacking on proper security performance that put Trump and the poor guys around him at risk. A much beloved husband and father lost his life. Two others got injured. It was the job of the security team to protect them all.

I wouldn't necessarily bet on that. I'd like to think the US constitution is strong enough, but it's not beyond him to use his powers to try to change it.

Talking of lies, do you accept that Trump did indeed talk about injecting bleach to cure Covid?

With the rising of the far right, accompanied by a weird script, I agree.
I am terrified of the far right and the beyond the horizon left. Actually, I fear more the extreme left, because they do not even make an ounce of sense, in general, and they can be more authoritarian than a dictator!
There is definitively a strong element of populism in the emerging far right movements.

If people voted for his policies in spite of his epic failings as a human being, I could get it.

But Trump's economic policies are on par with Liz Truss for FAFO and he will be enabled by the Republicans at every level.

The only bright spot for everyone watching from outside the country is that the political infighting will be spectacular.

I do remember watching him stating that they were thinking of trying injecting bleach indeed. That was quite a moment LOL

I agree. The centre is where the sensible people are, really. Even though I suppose I'd be naturally left myself.