Why America voted for Trump, a simple, sane summary

[Bippy2024]

This is why Trump won so resoundingly - this is why 72 million Americans voted for him - in one of his voter's own words.

If you choose to monster and slur 72 million people, that's saying a lot about you. Every accusation is a confession.

"I know a lot of people who voted for Trump. Let me tell you their reasons.
They wanted a return to normalcy. Gender ideology is just too out there. They want to protect women and children.

The economy has been disastrous for them. They didn’t have a cushion to absorb the inflation. They are cutting out everything in their lives just to afford food. And some are cutting that out.

Their lives have gotten very small. When they tried to tell you, they were told they shouldn’t splurge on things like a frozen pizza.

They see people coming illegally into this country and being handed stuff. Their stuff. Their money is being handed over. They have nothing. They watch as others are just handed more than they have.

They can’t afford rent and don’t know what to do. More people fighting for the same housing units makes prices rise.

They see a frightening turn towards censorship. They value the first amendment. Remember, it’s very important. They are so tired of being lied to and called terrible names.

Every time the mainstream media made up a story to make people hysterical they rolled their eyes. This pushed more and more people away. They stopped having any faith in the media. A firing squad? Really?

They feel the hysteria is toxic and frightening. Again they want this all to calm down.

They watch as political protests are punished for only one side. They see crime running rampant.

They see the people who try to protect us from crime being punished. The criminals go free to re-offend.

Essentially, they want their children to be healthy, they want their family to be fed, they don’t want endless war, they want things to be fair, they want the bad guys punished and the good guys appreciated, they want to protect women and children.

I hope if you are frightened today you will hear me. I hope I can help you see that things are not dire. I hope I can help you see that these were regular everyday folks who want regular everyday things. Food, clothing, shelter, privacy, respect for boundaries.

That’s it. Just those things. Peace."

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@HarrisObviously I think that summarises it yes and I don't think the Dems articulated very well why these simple solutions of Trumps will not be the panacea for all ills- it's the average Joe who is struggling they lost - not the intellectual city dwellers

She did indeed.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

RIIIIIGHT.

It doesn't matter whether you like it, or whether you froth, foam and screech about it. He's in. Get used to it.

Rather like 'you lost get over it' from Brexiters.

It is indeed an eye opening moment. Doesn't mean the outcome of the vote will deliver.

It does show that both sides of the continent have similar issues from the average electorate.

Immigration and cost of living. There should be no sneering at people who genuinely are negatively affected by this.

I truly hoped for a Harris win because I like to believe the highest office holds the highest standards which would preclude a character like Trump (again)

But I am not American and it isn't my culture or home. I hope for the best as whatever the USA does, trickles down.

The prospect of Trump in power again does trouble me.

One aspect of the economic situation that's not commonly appreciated is that many people feel fine about it because asset values have gone up so much recently. If you own real property or stocks, you feel good about that. If you don't own property or stocks, all you feel is stress from the higher cost of living. The average payment on a new mortgage has doubled in the last four years and with higher interest rates, it's also harder for people to finance a new car.

So the democrats trying to sell the economy as being great under Biden worked for the well off, but fell flat with the working class.

Sad to see that 4 million Americans are about to lose medical cover

Guess they won't feel financially better off
Think that's pretty dire in my language

I think this. It’s very arrogant of anyone to think they should have a say in who US citizens voted as their leader.

On a sort of side note, my hometown was one of the largest % to vote to leave the EU. The New York Times sent a journalist over to interview people here to ask them why. Don’t remember any UK newspapers doing the same….

Absolutely we need to listen.

It's a political discussion. Why are you against that?

This is such a lie.

It's nothing to do with trans people. It is about women's rights to single sex spaces and sports. It's about gay and lesbian rights. It's about not mutilating children.

I recall Trump talking a lot about sending your kids to school and them coming back a different sex. I recall a lot of rhetoric from the US right about children having their penises/breasts cut off.

By contrast, I don't recall Trump talking about women's rights to single sex spaces. Given his track record of wandering into beauty pageant changing rooms while half-naked teenagers are in there I doubt he gives a shiny shit about women's spaces.

He spoke a lot about women's sport.

The fact that he is a misogynist doesn't make the Democrats position any better which is what they claim to be.

Under the Democrats females are forced to change with men who say they are women and if they object they are the bigots and are threatened to lose their entire education which many sports scholarships fund.

Two sides - same misogyny.

This being mumsnet, a lot of weight is given to the trans issue, but that isn't what I heard, at all, from people who voted for DT or considered voting for him. I'm American and had I don't know how many discussions about the election with voters -- hundreds maybe? These were working class voters from my hometown who mostly would vote Democrat.

They were 100% pissed off about the economy and inflation. That's it. They thought the status quo was terrible and Harris was an extension of the Biden status quo. This reflects the votes in nearly every developed economy where the sitting govt has been booted out.

I voted for Harris because I support reproductive choice and wish it had gone my way, but I think those issues come across as merely philosophical when you can't buy food or pay your rent.

I don’t think being a bully equates to being strong. What has he done to show strength?

Remember - and this is a fact - every accusation is a confession. Every single slur, insult and sneer ... is a reflection only, and solely, of you.

But then:
I just posted this because a few of you aren't as thick as fuck

(Try not to sneer, try not to sneer )

You cannot possibly believe that Donald Trump wears the trousers in the Putin/Trump relationship.

Well, quite.

There is no "trans issue"
There is a "women's rights issue".

Do women have the right to antenatal medical care of their choice (including contraception and if needs be abortion) ?

Do sportswomen have the right to know that every competitor in a race or match is female ?

Many college Moms are aware that boys dropped from their squad grow their hair and "identify" as girls to get a second shot at competing. (Lia Thomas, Cece Telfer, Blair Fleming)

• it was a Biden Executive Order that changed "sex" into "gender" for female sport.

Do women in hospital have the right to ask for same sex care for things like smears ?

Should female prisoners be kept in single sex facilities (see Elizabeth Fry and the Geneva Convention) ?

The USA is not the only country failing on this
but its the one that just had an election.

Your first post was long enough without quoting the entire thing again just to add something else. Like Trump, unnecessary and annoying.

What, exactly, did Trump achieve in North Korea? Other than a fantastic photo op for Kim Jung Un to show that even America's president is prepared to drag himself halfway around the world to meet the Great Leader?

Why did Trump win?

• Misinformation and propaganda online, most likely financed by Russia and increasingly creating division and discord though the Western world.
• Low levels of education in many areas of the US. Illiteracy is staggeringly high.
• The economy. It has not been managed well, inflation is high, and people are struggling.
• Religious extremism being a cultural norm.

There are many more reasons, but those are the main ones. We think we're similar because of the shared language and media, but the US is massively different to the UK.