Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

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Can't berate Starmer for this but think some parents will be aghast.

"PM suggests £20,000 accommodation donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision' | Evening Standard" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

The Leader sets the standard and the culture. A zero tolerance approach would certainly help. But if the leader is a grifter himself…

I did clock that error, completely knew what she meant as it was so close to the election which was a forgone conclusion but assumed that someone would not be able to resist making a big deal. Clearly he was about to be PM so the point stands that he was being given a benefit due to his imminent position that he would not have otherwise received.

It's not as if you don't make factual mistakes yourself @Blossomtoes Or is it a different rule for other people maybe.

I wasn't defending Keir Starmer particularly. I was just thinking back to the allowances scandal of maybe 2009-ish and 'family values' and 'snogging in the cupboard' and thinking that it's impossible to keep a tab on what they're all up to.

People aren’t twisting things. We can only take your posts at face value. If you’re finding it frustrating and common then it is the way you’re writing, not everyone else.

fine you don’t take issue with the big freebies. I do. Millions of others do. We take issue with the taking freebies worth tens of thousands, for you that’s not a big deal. Fair enough. We have different morals.

Blossomtoes had to correct me about the year Keir was born. He looks younger than he is.

Especially as he was so vocal on Boris. But he was on the take before he was even pm.

i can’t even get my head round how much they’ve taken. It’s a laundry list, him, raynor, his wife, proper creaming off the top. Even for free clothes. It’s so awful.

So if you had a friend with a 2nd home in France and he/she offered you free accomodation, you would expect to pay tax on it would you?

I look fwd to you filling out a self assessment form....

I can get upset at what a lot of politicians do but as there was no money involved, let alone any cost to the Tax payer.... what exactly has he done wrong ?

what is corrupt here ???

Except he's not a personal friend doing him a favour.

He's a rich Labour donor currying favour from a man in a position of power?

You can't see the difference?

It's a bit like the latest news about Lord Alli lending £1.2 million to an MPs sister. On the face of it not corrupt. But none of these people (and no one in the real world) would have "friends" who can lend £1.2 million or let people use an £18 million penthouse or a multi million pound flat in NYC. The Labour MPs are making full use of this kind man's generosity. Someone none of them would know but for their jobs.

It just doesn't seem very socialist to me. Buy what do I know about the rules of socialist behaviour and how rules and morals apply to different people.

Oh people are twisting things for their own political ends.

No outrage with VIP lanes handing out billions of tax payer money for personal gain... or 14000 people dying each year because of poor AE care... but take a suit etc and declare it on the register of members interests, all within the rules and its all Corrupt and immoral.

Argue for changes in the rules but to pretend this is a moral issue is beyond belief.

what could be immoral that 14000 who would otherwise live, dying? Labour was elected to improve this but you lot don't care so go after the trivial.

You'd think so.

^ This. 100%.

Anyone coming on this thread to slag off Starmer is a parroting a hypocritical Tory line. Read the damn story. His friend offered the use of his penthouse flat during the election campaign when his son was studying for his exams and there were protesters outside his house. No money changed hands. Starmer is scrupulously honest. He declared it, and he estimated the rental cost for a short stay would have been £20k. No breach of the rules.

A brief reminder that when he was foreign secretary Johnson slipped his special branch minder and flew to Italy to attend the party of the son of a former KGB officer and Russian oligarch. Who he later elevated to the House of Lords. And which trip he failed to disclose. So come on, all you who have slagged off Starmer on this thread, show me where you have gone to town on Johnson for this (and the hundreds of other breaches of the ministerial code perpetrated by the Tories when in power).

I'm so sorry. I just read that in my mind in the voice of Keir Starmer and it's really cheered me up.

All declared, all above board and not corrupt but you do try and draw the inference that it is corrupt!!!

Is that true about Boris?! Wow.

What is corridor here is that he has lied. Lied to everyone who voted for them. Telling people things would be different. But of course they’re not, greedy snouts in the trough the lot of them. Colour me shocked.

Hopefully it will wake Labour voters up to the fact they’re no different from the Tories.

I think we've already discussed ad nausem the fact that the main reason everyone is critical is the moralising of Sir Keir re donations received by the Conservatives, prior to being found out that he was doing it himself but worse. I think it's called karma but who knows.

oh good but you cannot argue against what i ve written, so come out with a silly comment instead.

I'll take that.

Yes I did apologise and it was naughty of me to tell you. But it's such a gloomy day and it did make me laugh. I'm being sensible in all other replies don't worry.

I think we've already discussed ad nausem the fact that the main reason everyone is critical is the moralising of Sir Keir re donations received by the Conservatives, prior to being found out that he was doing it himself but worse. I think it's called karma but who knows

So there is an equivalence (in your mind) of a tax payer funded £8m helicopter, Frank Hestors £20m after calling for a women to be killed, Jenriks overriding a planning decision to make his friend a multimillionaire, VIP lanes for non existent PPE and a suit with some glasses... OK.

/if only you were....

No I'm not saying it's corrupt (although it may be). It reminds me of an unpopular boy at university who used to try and buy friendship with gifts to people, food etc. Some people accepted the gifts without giving anything in return. I was always taught to never be in anyone's debt, financially or otherwise, and to always repay a favour. I'm just interested to know how MPs receiving the largesse of Lord Alli are going to repay him. And if they aren't, they need to admit they are leeching off him.

And I'm not saying Lord Alli is unpopular btw before someone leaps on to the irrelevant part of my post.

🤣Well, most of them..

Savanta got Liar back as top response pre conference re Starmer. All this bogus by boy needs quiet and setting up videos is not going to help

I had forgotten about this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65052706