When will things get better under Labour?

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I remember reading a thread asking this, just after the election results. My thoughts at the time were that things wouldn’t change much. I’ve seen governments come and go and nothing much changes. We are the same people, the same country, the same industries and we have the same amount of money.

It’s depressing to see what is going on currently. Is it because we now have a left wing government? If the riots were happening under the Tories would the agitators be labelled as far left?

It won't..we are doomed.
The country is already going into a depression.
My friends and family who voted Labour ( most always have) are now regretting it

Most of the Western World economies are in managed (or mismanaged) decline and it's pretty much irreversible. Most of Europe and America are heading the same way and yes, a "depression" is definitely on the cards. Inevitable really as that's what happens when you aren't paying your way and are constantly borrowing just to pay your bills. Not helped by massive balance of payments deficits on goods meaning a constant and steady flow of real money out of the country to buy goods made in the Far East, using borrowed money to pay benefits etc.

Which is why I e been overpaying my mortgage asap cos if that depression comes ill be less stressful than I would be if I was still carrying a big mortgage.

I don't know about that. If we have hyper inflation, your mortgage debt would soon disappear. It's people with savings who are more at risk as with high inflation or a currency revaluation, they'd end up with their savings rapidly losing value. The best place to be really is having a steady reliable job with a mortgage. That way your wage will increase with inflation and your mortgage will reduce in real terms.

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Seriously, who’s pushing this crap?

if any govt is' them v us' it's a labour one, and no matter where you sit on the voting scale you will find you are a THEM, strange that !

GB News and other RW media outlets.

About Keir Starmer reading it wrong and being anxious making and depressing? John Crace in the Guardian for starters.

John Crace is a satirist. You’re not supposed to take him seriously.

This thread is depressing and funny in equal measure.

Really? People on here took him very seriously when he was beasting the Tories. Maybe they just didn't get the joke.

No we didn’t. He made us laugh then too because we’re intelligent enough to be able to tell the difference between satire and political commentary. I thought yesterday’s column was very amusing.

A very good read and yes we know he’s a satirist but satire can be deadly serious

6 months

I knew a naive creature who voted Lib Dem when they came into power as part of the coalition - 2010? and then grumbled because they didn't do exactly what they'd promised. How could they? Got to compromise! 'I'll never vote Lib Dem again' the person said. How silly. It's just an example.

As for dickheads who believed that tosh on that bus.......................

Or any of them who tell us we'll have cheaper energy blah di blah di rubbish........

I do think we should all accept that a new government has to find its feet and has to weather what external events come its way. (Would have been nice if Labour supporters could admit that about covid and the energy price shocks, but there you go.)

What I find genuinely comical about this government and its vocal fans, though, is that the ‘you’re wicked, we’re much more moral’ has gone on the bonfire immediately.

If a government needs to make cuts to OAPs’ allowances, or hike taxes, just do it, tell the truth and stand up for yourself honestly. This bollocks about millionaire pensioners and a phantom black hole is just going to sink this government before it’s got going.

Absolutely.
I don’t think people realise how much Blair and Brown have fucked this country over and it has had decade long implications.

It was fine when they left. If you want to go to the real roots of the mess we’re in you’ll need to look at Thatcher.

Thatcher did not cause the absolute shit show that Blair/Brown have caused this country.

Her policies are at the root of everything that’s wrong. We have a housing crisis because she decimated social housing, we have a stagnant economy and areas of deprivation because she stripped all the industry out of the country. She privatised everything in sight leading to lack of investment in utilities to line investors’ pockets. You need to look at what’s wrong and why. The successive Labour governments achieved miracles in 13 years, only for their achievements to be torn apart by the next iteration of Tories.

Plenty of politicians and prime ministers have had decades to "right any wrongs" done by Thatcher. Funny how they havn't. Neither Tory NOR Labour!

How? Rip the industry out of a country that took over a century to build up - how is that going to be replaced? At least we have a government that’s planning to build some social housing at last, let’s hope they remember to repeal right to buy while they’re at it.

Jaysus, I thought we were the GB champions of Whataboutery here in NI. I see we have stiff competition from Englanders.

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