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When will things get better under Labour?

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Tregaronableist · 05/08/2024 09:30

I remember reading a thread asking this, just after the election results. My thoughts at the time were that things wouldn’t change much. I’ve seen governments come and go and nothing much changes. We are the same people, the same country, the same industries and we have the same amount of money.

It’s depressing to see what is going on currently. Is it because we now have a left wing government? If the riots were happening under the Tories would the agitators be labelled as far left?

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Spinet · 04/09/2024 15:16

The ranking is interesting. Usually a 3 year old poll would be relevant I suppose but in these times the ranking misses out 4 Prime Ministers. I think the top of the 'bad job' list would look very different now.

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/215620/economics/rail-privatisation-success-or-failure/ this article disagrees with you re: privatisation of BR and I see you wisely don't mention the power or water companies (I wouldn't argue with you re: communications).

You're right it's not a dissertation but if you're going to write such an assertive post and say things like 'leaving biases at the door' you should expect people to challenge that you've actually done it.

uk-rail-passenger-journeys

Rail Privatisation - Success or Failure? - Economics Help

https://youtu.be/2xwnt1CgkU0 In the Victorian age, the UK led the world in building railways, it was an invention that changed the world. But, by the 1980s, the state owned British Railways was the butt of jokes, stale sandwiches, declining passengers...

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/215620/economics/rail-privatisation-success-or-failure

Mrsgreen100 · 04/09/2024 15:18

They won’t,
global pandemic, fuel crisis etc
also have you forgotten what they did last time
spent every damm penny
and left a note saying there’s nothing left

Tryingtokeepgoing · 04/09/2024 15:40

@Spinet unlike some, I don’t mind being challenged because I, not tied to any particular ideology. I just want things to work better. On the privatisation of power, I think it’s important to understand what worked and what didn’t. At a consumer level, the separation of generation from distribution / selling meant that consumers had far more choice of suppliers and pricing models and, encouraged by Martin Lewis, never had it so good. But what the regulators and government didn’t effectively do was have a strategy for supply. Is that a failing of privatisation or of government? Even then, the private sector tried to fill the supply gap - but then our planning systems put barriers in front of nuclear, wind and solar. Local planning officers effectively stalled any progress on new generator. Meanwhile, emissions targets rightly signalled the end of dirty generation methods. Reducing capacity on the one side without replacing that capacity was only ever going to lead to problems.

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