Reform voters should realise

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Any one of us could be a refugee by this time next year.

In 6 months, or 5 years, or 40 years or 150 years the UK population could be refugees in someone else's country.

Treat others as you want to be treated

The areas where reform have got in are very deprived areas with very high unemployment, that have been left with no investment. People are fed up and have little hope for the future there. I lived in a not too dissimilar place as a child, after thatcher had closed the pits. It created like a sub culture, it wasnt a fun time in my life thats for sure. These people are desperate for some hope and Farage has taken advantage of that with some great sound bites. Labour have ignored these places in the past, as have the Tories.

To me inequality in this country is a far bigger issue than immigration. You just have to look at the history of our country to realise that we have helped create a lot of refuges too.

Reform are a single issue party

Yes they are - and it’s an issue that’s important for millions it seems. To sneer at the boring man in the pub does nothing to lower that number or address the situation in a pragmatic way.

So you're saying it's ok to illegally enter a country even as an economic migrant? If anyone does that it's bad

asylum seekers don’t have to claim in the first safe country. To claim asylum in the UK, they have to be in the UK. Perhaps they have family in the UK or speak the language so choose the UK over France. The UK have an appallingly slow process at hearing applications and are at fault.

@SirChenjins but Farage knows it's not sustainable.

He starts off with zero immigration then net zero immigration then when it's pointed out to him that some parts of the UK need immigration he concedes a bit more ground around certain skills and jobs.

He's a populist (and a successful one) but ultimately his future for immigration won't be any different to the Tories in the end save for maybe if he takes up the suggestion from one of his supporters last weeks and uses the small boats for target practice.

Lol. Perhaps.

You should come live where I am - 3 hotels taken over by Government illegal-migrant "clients", stabbings, fights, and rapes have increased exponentially since those violent, aggressive, Western-hating males have been put there.

They do not want to integrate. They hate our women, they hate our way of life, they have no intention of merging with us at all.

It's not the fact that they are migrants. It's the fact that they are the men that they are from the cultures and religions they are from and how they view women, the British way of life, violence, aggression, etc.

Agree - maybe if cash payments fur wages were made illegal then there would be a need for a UK bank account (which requires ID).

But sustainability is only part of it. Unless the Govt really starts to put real strategies in place then things will get much worse.

BBC news interviewed voters in Sheffield Brightside, one of the poorest constituencies in the UK. A man said he was voting for Reform. Why? Because he thought Farage was straight talking and would shake things up a bit. Too many middle class politicians ignoring people like him, maybe?

If such a thing did ever happen I would follow the LEGAL route to claiming asylum. I would not ILLEGALLY enter a country and earn money via criminal means like drug dealing, theft, etc.

My great grandparents were immigrants. But even I can see the negative impacts of the high number of immigrants here. It needs controlling and monitoring like USA, Canada and Australia. Yes I voted reform.

Did you vote Reform, @Beautiful3 because of your migration concerns, or was it other factors?

How do you think it should be controlled?

To claim asylum in the UK, a person must be in the UK.

In which case we want a party that invests in the police and courts to ensure that criminal behaviour is identified and responded to. That can include removing the right to be in this country.

unfortunately under the recent government police take days to arrive and court takes years. You can’t remove someone from the country until they’ve actually been found guilty…

Reform voters have no issues with refugees. They just want better border control! We literally let anyone in, and hand them a bloody British passport! WHY is everyone ok with this? We all look at Australia and Canada and New Zealand and think they are doing a great job with immigration yet we don’t want the same for England? Why?! I cannot comprehend it.

It’s more than just police and courts though - that’s just shutting the stable door long after the horse gone. There needs to be (just for starters) closer working with the EU border controls, a well structured foreign policy, a better resourced border agency, a plan for immigration set against improved employment forecasting, priority for UK citizens around housing, a crackdown on the black economy and zero hours contracts etc etc etc to stop it happening in the first place.

A huge sum is paid to France every year to prevent the illegal channel crossings- they don't seem to be very effective?

We have been very welcoming to the ukranian refugees and others. Reform voters are not up in arms about this.
The people you see coming across in boats are a huge proportion of young males, who are disappearing into our country to work and live illegally. Is that right?
Some are trafficked straight into slave labour. Who will not be safe. Brought here with promises of a better life, only to find themselves in a new fresh hell under the gangs.Is that right?
Some will be linked to terrorist cells working amongst us. Does that make you/your children feel safe?

I have seen myself on an early morning walk, an abandoned dinghy, life jackets and water bottles. I've never been so scared on my life. Who was in that boat, why so determined to come across to a remote beach?

They are predominantly NOT refugees. Some, maybe. But if you choose to risk your life when the country across the water is not a war torn country, then what us your real motive?

It is the above which many reform voters are against,not genuine refugees who follow the correct and legal procedure.

I urge you to actually visit the coast. See for yourself what is happening. It is real and terrifying.

How would you go about changing the border controls?

@Parker231 i am not a politician nor am i border security so i have no idea. But I assume it starts with a policy. I.e unless you can speak English, have a skill we need and x amount of money and a place to live when you enter, your visa is bloody well declined.

We already have policies for visa holders in the UK. I had one when we were living in the UK.

The visa policy, which works, has nothing to do with those coming to the uk to see asylum.

France comply with their legislation.

give over OP. It’s not racist to want policy and caps and proper open debate.

You will be crying when the Islamic culture clash caused by the extreme lefts pro Palestine, antisemitism, inability to be honest leads to some very horrible situations in this country.

but of course I’m racist to say it

i didn’t vote reform but I have the ability to see things as they are

And look what’s happening to the political landscape in France.