Reform voters should realise

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Any one of us could be a refugee by this time next year.

In 6 months, or 5 years, or 40 years or 150 years the UK population could be refugees in someone else's country.

Treat others as you want to be treated

They could always cross from France. Pre Brexit included

The annual number of asylum applications to the UK peaked in 2002 at 84,132.

We have not had the ability to return all people at any time, the numbers were very small under that mechanism

Can you say why asylum seekers are not returned to Italy where many enter from the Med?

We cannot and should not shirk our responsibility to asylum seekers just because we happen to be an island, and expect France to bear the cost and responsibility of all asylum seekers who arrive there just because they are not an island. If we want to stop the boats we need a fair and safe way for asylum seekers to come to the UK or apply for asylum to the UK from other countries.

Most of those arriving on small boats claim asylum and most asylum claims are successful and refugee status is granted.

Of course there are more legal migrants than asylum seekers if that is what you mean.

Most claim asylum and most claims (which have been decided) are successful.

Another huge issue is the amount of time we take to process claims. Most people who arrived on small boats between 2018 and now have not had a decision yet.

Which then makes you think, what is the difference between a Ukrainian and say someone fleeing Iran that causes us to have different views on whether they are welcome here?

That’s interesting about Albania, sounds like a sensible solution as it does genuinely seem that most migration from Albania is for economic reasons. Obviously someone fleeing Syria or Iran is in a different situation.

Report him to the home office

Some people believe in a world with open borders and genuinely think it would be viable…

I read the Green Party manifesto, because there was much that I agree with. However, they do appear to have a very open policy with regard to migration, much more than the Labour party.

My ex's family originated from Belarus. During the 2nd world war, both his grannies escaped to Africa to avoid being caught up in the Nazi campaign and lived as asylum seekers until it was safe to return.

This is Europe. And within the lifetime of someone living today. You're absolutely right OP, it can happen to anyone.

But so what if someone wants to come over to work. Since we apparently can't harvest the fruit in our fields or fill healthcare vacancies, where else do people think we will get the resources?

They were fortunate they could get to Africa, @Treacletoots . Was it South Africa?
Millions were trapped in fortress Europe, unable to get out and ending up being murdered. Which is what asylum policies are necessary.

The NatSocs were a fringe political party as well - until they weren't.

@CatrionaBalfour I don't know but I do know that they lost their homes and were forced to eventually resettle in the UK due to ongoing conflict with Russia.

People have short memories.

New government. More civil servants? Claims processed more quickly soon?

Climate change isn't getting a mention on this thread. The temperature in Delhi the other month was 59 degrees. People cannot live in conditions like that. If you think there's a flood of refugees now I think you ain't seen nothing yet.

Hopefully. I don’t think it’s a good situation for anyone that asylum seekers are having to wait so long for a decision on their claims.

Well Reform UK don’t believe in Climate change so they probably won’t take that into account.

You are right though and it’s a scary position to be in.

The 1951 UN Convention on Human Rights, the basis for international asylum law, does not require this. The Dublin Agreement provides a framework for seeking asylum within the EU that does call for this, but only amongst EU member states.

Own goal, UKIP/Reform/Brexit

This isn’t being used by other countries, otherwise Italy would see more people returned within the EU

Regarding an earlier post: You cannot send someone who was not granted asylum to a country where they do not hold a passport if it has not agreed to receive them.

Regarding the Dublin Agreement; It is more complex than this, there is also a principle of shared responsibility and there is consideration for individual circumstances.

But Italy and others do bear a disproportionate load and Dublin is currently being renegotiated. So all member states will share the EU asylum load more equitably going forward

The facts remain that many asylum seekers know rudimentary English and many have more knowledge of British culture than any other European culture. This makes the UK an attractive destination.

The EU has no reason to ensure that the UK bears only a proportional asylum burden (although I believe that amongst the wealthy nations, at present we do). In that sense, people drawn to UKIP/Reform/Brexit as a way of controlling immigration seem to have done the opposite. Net migration is at an all time high. We can’t be sure about asylum seekers because processing claims has nearly ground to a halt

@EasternStandard can you give us data on return of irregular migrants to Italy?

Reform voters realise they can vote for who the hell they like. That is what democracy is.

I don't vote reform but it's ridiculous the amount of threads trying to school them. Just give it up.

I used to hold the view that country borders were irrelevant and that as it was luck where we were born then our country should be open and that all countries should be open. However, I changed my view quite a while ago when I realised that this was fine if people entered the UK and then obeyed our rules and didn't try and impose their ideology and religion upon others (fine if they want to follow their own religion but not impose or ask for their own schools and other adaptations.)

Totally agree.

Not to mention most of them are labour voters anf voted for a man who doesn't know what a woman is.

You don't know what others voted for on here.
It's a discussion thread, it's not to tell anyone what to do, and it's certainly nothing about being gender critical or whatever.