Reform voters should realise

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Any one of us could be a refugee by this time next year.

In 6 months, or 5 years, or 40 years or 150 years the UK population could be refugees in someone else's country.

Treat others as you want to be treated

Some politicians like Farage and the media rely on the fact that some people are too lazy to think outside the box, they whip up the imaginary bogeyman scenario and people swallow it, the vast majority of immigration is legal by visa but they deliberately mix it up with the people trying to enter the country illegally, who are a fraction of the whole number. Processing centres need to be setup outside the UK so there would be legal routes available to them thus cutting out the people traffickers, and for those mentioning Albania that has now ended as Britain made an arrangement with the Albanian government that those people would not get asylum and would be returned. it's all a smokescreen.

You might want to read about British history …….

This ^

….what @Arafina said

I didn't vote Reform but it's not about refugees it's about low skilled migration and the pressure that puts on housing, nhs etc

What's history got to do with what's happening right now and the general election?

67% of those who apply are granted asylum.

You have to ask why those jobs are being done by migrants and not existing uk citizens.
Could it be something to do with the low wages that employers can get away with paying?

Safe countries? Tell that to the 17 refugee children who go missing in mainland Europe every DAY. To the refugee women who are raped, kidnapped and trafficked.

Most immigration to the UK IS by economic migrants but ones who are given visas by the government. The last time Labour were accused of 'opening the floodgates' net migration rose a modest amount to about 100,000/year and remained roughly that rate until Brexit where it halved the first year then dramatically shot up to nearly 800,000. But yes, Labour are always the problem.

Is that what they are all doing ?

The situation in Europe is shocking. Recent problems in Belgium and Ireland highlight that. Many vulnerable people are just ripe for exploitation. It's just making traffickers filthy rich.

@Singersong I have reported your offensive first post.

So no war there (or indeed in many other countries that the migrant people come from) which negates your earlier post.

This precisely what I was going to say.
The OP’s naivety is disquieting.

I agree that we absolutely need to look at why people are coming to the UK without visas or as genuine asylum seekers through the legal channels in the numbers they are and put multi-faceted strategies in place to bring those numbers down. However, implying every Reform voter is an out and out racist with blood on their hands doesn’t solve anything - the numbers show this is a concern for many and unless you want that number to rise the issue has to be talked about and addressed properly.

And the UK is safe for undocumented children? Undocumented women? Or even men?

What do you suggest, anyone in any part of the world should have the right to live and work here? The right to our social security?

A better system is required. Currently human trafficking is financing international criminal gangs in drugs and arms. Not great is it. We also need a better deal with the EU where when one country denies asylum, people don't just move to the next. Some migrants are spending years in Europe, being denied asylum in one country, then the next. They end up at the far West of their journey, trying to get to the UK as a final go having spent anything up to 15 years in the EU. Crazy.

If there are refugees from the UK it's most likely to be because people are running away from a Reform-like party in power. So reform voters won't be the ones running away - quite the opposite
In this country people can't afford housing and to have children - so no wonder people are anti immigrants. To free up housing we need to stop second home ownership and concentrate new housing as properly affordable. We need to be wary of building over farmland because climate change will render much current food growing areas unproductive globally.

I think mainly people should realise that immigration of whatever kind is only going to get more intensive as climate change forces people to move from areas that can't sustain food production and our best bet is to have policies that make the best of migration, eg by helping fill jobs we need in a country with an aging demographic, rather than trying to stop it.

for what reason?

Reform are a single issue party. If you vote for them you're buying into one thing and that's their position on immigration. Oh and maybe a bit of climate change denial I suppose.

To believe that they could at any stage form a credible government is utterly deluded. They're the equivalent of the boring man down the pub you avoid at all costs shouting about how he knows what this country needs but hasn't actually the first idea about anything.

Farage won't see out the parliamentary term when he realises with five seats his party won't be getting any meaningful PMQ time and his constituents are nagging about things he's not interested in.

Because it's offensive IMO.

The poster is suggesting that illegal immigrants are men who come here with the intention of raping, killing and attacking.

As a refugee I would seek asylum in the first safe country. You know, like the rules say to do.

would be a shame if somebody anonymously tipped off the government…

She’d be thankful later down the line.

The majority of people entering this country don’t do so with the intent to attack / kill / rape people.

@Lalalacrosse the Refugee Convention includes no such rule. Ironically there was an ability in some situations to return to a safe EU country but post Brexit that changed and we haven't yet replaced it. So at the moment there's nothing requiring someone seeking asylum to do so in the first safe country.

Also are you speaking as a refugee yourself or were you putting yourself in the position of one? I wasn't clear from your post.