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Trump Trial Time - banish all memories of Mueller.

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Spandauer · 19/04/2024 16:29

Is this #132?
Still trying to rid the world of this troublesome twat.

Old thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4912378-trump-gets-gagged-mccarthy-gets-booted-whats-next-in-trumpworld

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bluecomputerscreen · 01/06/2024 21:34

on that note - could she travel to calofornia (or another state) for divorce proceedings if it's more favourable?

AcrossthePond55 · 01/06/2024 23:55

bluecomputerscreen · 01/06/2024 21:34

on that note - could she travel to calofornia (or another state) for divorce proceedings if it's more favourable?

Sure, all she'd have to do is meet the residency requirement. In CA it's 6 months in state and 3 mos in county. Different states have different requirements.

DuncinToffee · 06/06/2024 20:46

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/06/steve-bannon-prison-jan-6-subpoena-trump-00162065

Steve Bannon has been ordered to surrender to prison by July 1. Judge Nichols has revoked his bail.

Bannon’s sentence for defying the Jan. 6 committee’s subpoena has been on hold while he appealed. Today, Judge Nichols (a Trump appointee) ruled that the original reasons for staying the sentence no longer be er applied.

Bannon’s sentence would run through early November.

Spandauer · 10/06/2024 07:20

Brief Trump Trials update (details taken from Washington Post.)

(TL:DR
He's still getting away with everything by appealing every tiny detail in every bloody case.)

The Supreme Court’s decision on whether Trump is immune from federal prosecution in the D.C. election interference case could come any week now, and certainly by the end of the month or very early in July.


In Florida, there are deadlines on some pretrial motions this week, and a bunch of hearings scheduled for later this month.
Last week: Judge Aileen M. Cannon, who is overseeing the case, made some adjustments to the back-to-back pretrial hearings she has scheduled for her Fort Pierce, Fla., courtroom over a three-day period in late June. The schedule highlights just how many backlogged decisions Cannon needs to make before this case — sometimes said to be the most serious Trump is facing — can go to trial.

The lineup also shows the judge’s willingness to hear arguments in person for every small and long-shot motion that Trump and his co-defendants have made in hopes of getting the case dismissed — motions that many federal judges would rule on without holding hearings.

Last week: The Georgia Court of Appeals on Wednesday ordered the lower court to completely pause the pretrial proceedings in the case against Trump and his co-defendants while it hears an appeal seeking to disqualify Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis, the top prosecutor.

Trump and eight of his co-defendants are seeking to oust Willis over allegations that she improperly spent taxpayer dollars when she had a romantic relationship with a lawyer she hired to work on the case. The trial judge rejected that argument and the defendants, including Trump, appealed it.

Wednesday’s ruling means nothing else can happen in the trial — no motions can be heard, no evidence can be discussed — until the appeals court rules on Willis, which could happen as late as March 2025.

And in New York, the probation office will hold a virtual interview Monday with Trump, which is the next step in his presentencing process after his hush-money conviction. The former president will participate in the meeting from Palm Beach, Fla., according to a person familiar with the arrangements who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a proceeding that is not public.
Separately, the judge in the case is weighing whether to lift part of the gag order against Trump as he campaigns for another term in the White House and awaits his July 11 sentencing.

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DuncinToffee · 10/06/2024 10:24

Grin at this tweet

Tomorrow the Republican candidate for president is meeting with his probation officer.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/06/2024 11:54

The questions he is asked and required to answer might trip him up a bit. This is someone who simply wants to find out whether Trump is mentally competent and has no interest in his politics, with luck.

BruceAndNosh · 10/06/2024 17:16

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/06/2024 11:54

The questions he is asked and required to answer might trip him up a bit. This is someone who simply wants to find out whether Trump is mentally competent and has no interest in his politics, with luck.

Do they ask about medications, doctor prescribed or self-prescribed? As it's a virtual meeting the can't do a drug test.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/06/2024 17:19

I honestly don't know whether they ask about medications, but I hadn't realised it wasn't a face-to-face. I think the probation officer ought to be given every chance to observe the actual demeanour of the individual, so that is a bit disappointing.

Wallaw · 10/06/2024 17:22

Most definitely a man who should hold the key to the nuclear arsenal

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1799894705288761412

x.com

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1799894705288761412

BruceAndNosh · 10/06/2024 17:23

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/06/2024 17:19

I honestly don't know whether they ask about medications, but I hadn't realised it wasn't a face-to-face. I think the probation officer ought to be given every chance to observe the actual demeanour of the individual, so that is a bit disappointing.

Apparently virtual probation was interviews are unusual but not unheard of. One reason suggested was the cost of the logistics that the Trump circus generates

Spandauer · 10/06/2024 17:32

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-special-probation-meeting-sparks-backlash-1910453

From the article:
He also said that most convicted felons are typically required to submit a drug test, but since Trump's conviction isn't related to controlled substances, "the test might well be waived by the court for now."

Donald Trump Probation Special

Donald Trump "special" probation meeting sparks backlash

Critics say Trump is getting "special treatment" in the sentencing process related to his recent criminal conviction.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-special-probation-meeting-sparks-backlash-1910453

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AcrossthePond55 · 10/06/2024 22:38

Wallaw · 10/06/2024 17:22

Most definitely a man who should hold the key to the nuclear arsenal

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1799894705288761412

His Vegas speech was, well, there really are no words. Word salad and dog whistles doesn't cover it. It was more in line with a bad acid trip.

We watched a few of the news clips on The View, then I had to tell DH to mute the TV. It was more than I could take. His basic message was 'Hitlerian' as far as the basic 'content', but the method of delivery was absolutely insane. At least Hitler's speeches made sense 'word wise' even if they were abhorrent.

I think I'm starting to liken Trump to Caligula rather than Hitler.

TheABC · 10/06/2024 22:46

Do people actually listen to Trump? Or is it more a case of: that's the MAGA symbol, I'm voting for it?

I'm suddenly grateful our politicians in the UK can string a sentence together, even if it's racist codswallop (Reform, I'm glaring at you).

AcrossthePond55 · 11/06/2024 17:05

@TheABC

Or is it more a case of: that's the MAGA symbol, I'm voting for it?

Pretty much, yes. Jordan Klepper goes out and interviews MAGAsshats at rallies and it's pretty obvious that his supporters have no idea what he actually said. They pick words or phrases out out of his incomprehensible gibberish and put their own interpretations on them to align with whatever their most important issue is. But usually it's just "Trump's the greatest" or words to that effect and they can't even tell you exactly what he said.

Spandauer · 17/06/2024 11:31

In 'Ye Olde Days' this is the sort of thing that would have made me laugh but now we know that they are deadly serious... can you imagine bank notes with his feckin face on them?! 🤮

Trump Trial Time - banish all memories of Mueller.
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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/06/2024 13:48

I suspect the Senate will quietly ignore all of these, and doubt any of them will even get as far as Biden for him to shoot down in flames.

But they all know Trumpy-Wumpy likes having his name on things, so it is a cheap and meaningless way to suck up to him and there will always be toadies who propose this sort of dreck.

PerkingFaintly · 17/06/2024 18:32

Oh god, that's funny.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/06/2024 19:29

Yes, it's always funny when Trump tries to boast about "acing" that test, not realising that it is the one they give you when they have reason to think you have early stages of one or another form of dementia.

Actually, having that test given to them both by a neutral doctor (someone from Sweden or Switzerland or somewhere famously neutral) might be highly entertaining, since Trump would not then be able to lie about the results. And while we're at it, give them a drugs test at the same time.

AcrossthePond55 · 18/06/2024 16:32

TBH, I don't think that Trump has dementia. I just think he's demented.

He's someone who has never been told 'no', who has always been surrounded by 'yes persons', has always been told he's perfect, and has always been able to 'slip the noose' when caught in wrong doing suddenly comes straight up against being held accountable by a power greater than himself, being told 'you can't do that' and finding there's no way around it, and losing what he most wanted (the election). He's unable to accept any reality other than his own. Of course he's insane.

Spandauer · 24/06/2024 08:05

Gird your loins! it's Battle of the Grandpas Round 1...

Biden v Trump debate on Thursday 8pm EST - late for us in the U.K. so we have an excuse to be "sleepy " - plus we'll be recovering from our own leaders' mind-numbing debate to be held on Wednesday 😉

The 90-minute debate, moderated by CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, will not have a studio audience, a request from the Biden team and a departure from previous debate setups. To avoid another frustrated outburst Biden’s team also asked for the candidates’ microphones to be muted when it is not their turn to speak, which Trump’s campaign agreed to. Only Trump and Biden will be on stage, with Biden on the right podium and Trump on the left – even this needed to be decided by coin flip lest one side felt their positioning unfair. And unlike their last debate, Trump will get the final word during closing statements (this was also decided by coin flip).

Despite the criminal convictions and standard controversy surrounding Donald Trump, extensive polling shows the presidential race is still close – with many indicating Trump has the edge. So there is no doubt that both sides are taking this upcoming debate very seriously: Joe Biden has reportedly run away to the mountains with a close circle of advisers to tighten his argument and prepare retorts to the inevitable personal smears, while Trump is likely workshopping said insults and other attack lines with his vice-presidential hopefuls.

What could possibly go wrong?

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poetryandwine · 24/06/2024 10:41

😄😄😄

AcrossthePond55 · 24/06/2024 13:36

@Spandauer

Sigh, do I skip the debate or not? I already know who I'm voting for and I'd be hitting the mute button during Trump's answers so what's the point in watching? Decisions, decisions.

Spandauer · 24/06/2024 15:01

AcrossthePond55 · 24/06/2024 13:36

@Spandauer

Sigh, do I skip the debate or not? I already know who I'm voting for and I'd be hitting the mute button during Trump's answers so what's the point in watching? Decisions, decisions.

I probably won't stay up to watch although my DP probably will as he is able to vote in Presidential elections - but his vote will be in Massachusetts, a very blue state. It would have been Pennsylvania (needs his vote) but the idiot darling moved to MA about 4 months before coming to live in the UK.

I may weaken and watch from behind the sofa! I can't abide The Orange Criminal's voice/hand movements/utter drivel that comes out of his mouth and usually have to mute him, like you, but I will probably want to torture reassure myself that Joe has managed to be "with it" on the night...

As an aside... DP is still of the mind that Joe will step down from the race (maybe in August at the Dem Convention) and a new candidate will be endorsed by the delegates... I don't see it myself.

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AcrossthePond55 · 24/06/2024 15:30

@Spandauer

I'm in a blue state too (CA). DH & I RV and we keep joking about parking the caravan in a battleground/'leaning right' state and registering to vote there lol. Obvs we'd never do that (illegal) and anyway it's not that simple.

Your reasons are the basic feeling I have re watching. I honestly don't doubt Biden's ability to do the job. I think he's sharp as a tack. I think the problem is that because of his speech impediment, there are times he has trouble getting his words out right. I think it's especially difficult when he gets flustered or agitated. And you know Trump is going to try hard to push all his buttons, especially about Hunter. To tell the truth I think Trump is pretty 'unflappable', nothing Joe says is going to fluster him, he's too up his own arse and too 'self-justified' to care about what's said.

As far as Joe bowing out, not gonna happen. Mainly because there is no other viable candidate at this point in time. Kamala is already on the ticket, so she's 'out' as a candidate. Newsom and Buttigieg are both eyeing 2028. Those are the three that have the 'name recognition' and the established 'national' reputation. Anyone else would be starting the race way behind as far as the public 'knowing' that candidate.

It's going to be a hellish election night, at least for me. I told DH that I may see my doctor and ask for a 'knock out pill' to take at 8pm (polls closing time here in CA) so I can just sleep through the whole thing. Otherwise I'll be up having panic attacks with every news report.

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