Is Angela Raynor a liar or is it all anti Labour media bias?

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I’m well aware how anti Labour a lot of the main stream media seem to be so I wasn’t paying much attention previously to all the stuff about how she should have paid capital gains tax on her house, etc. she was adamant that she didn’t need to.

So it seems like she said it was her main residence so not liable for capital gains tax. But her husband and kids lived in a house a short distance away apparently for the first five years of their marriage which is unusual. A neighbour who lived next to her “husband’s” house said it was the main family home and Angela definitely lived there.

I’ll be sad if she has lied. Always thought she was on the side of the ordinary person. I guess the police/tax man might have a hard time proving anything though regardless of the neighbour’s statement. If all bills, etc were in the individual names there’s no evidence.

Haha you are funny. She didn't see fit to make sure the scheme actually was sustainable though, did she?

Well, not really - if she'd really been doing it in order to increase equality and access to homes instead of using it as an electoral bribe, she would have mandated 1 fot 1 replacement of any home sold. She didn't.

Get real. She bought it before she was a politician.

Exactly @AdamRyan. I don’t imagine when AR bought her council house, many years ago, as a single working mum, she thought ‘Oo, I’d better not do this because one day I’ll be Deputy Leader of the Labour Party’💪🏻

Come on, you socialists secretly admire Thatcher for her contempt for sex and class barriers. You just won’t admit it. Just like you won’t admit to buying a home to be near a good state school or planning to avoid tax.

I can remember loads of middle class left wing snobbery about Major, what with his not having a degree, being the son of an acrobat and garden gnome seller. Fettes educated Blair was sooo much more them.

As for Emily Thornberry…

@WhatsTheUseOfWorrying "Come on, you socialists secretly admire Thatcher for her contempt for sex and class barriers."
I don't secretly admire her. I actively admire her. For that-and that alone.

Angela Rayner should just know her place

@WhatsTheUseOfWorrying as @CurlewKate said, that's about the only thing I admire her for. Everything else she did - not so much.

As for John Major - as a Dutch born person, I don't do class systems so no, couldn't care less about someone's educational background. Methinks the lady doth project too much.

The mask really came off in that post, didn't it?

Didn't it just

Not really, because once all the Council houses were sold... what then? no one else could do similar... so we are now where we are with a housing crisis and poorer people paying 50 or 60% of their take home pay to BTL landlords.... which then has knock on effects as less money in the local economy.

I couldn’t agree more about BTL. Upthread I said I want massive regulatory intervention in the housing market.

But there is nothing wrong with RTB. As Angela can attest.

Which post?

Er, ok. And what am I projecting (protesting?) about too much?

The one where you straight out and openly accused people on the political left of being classist. Like, say, a certain well known politician wittering on about Jeremy Corbyn's suits instead of focusing on the issues. As I said, projecting. (I know the phrase says 'protest', I was inflicting a pun on the thread).

Well done on the faux-naif, by the way.

WTF are you talking about? I thought ‘project’ might have been an autocorrect. I was being polite. ‘Faux-naif’ - ooh, get you.

If you seriously think the left are never snobby you’re very foolish.

I haven’t said anything about Angela Rayner knowing her place. You’ve just made that up. I guess that’s just more of the left’s dishonesty.

Of course there are snobby people on the left. Nobody has said there aren't.

And there you go again, with sweeping statements about 'what the left are like'. You out and out accused people on the left of being classist and that being the reason why they preferred Tony Blair to John Major. Of course that election was nothing to do with 19 years of Tory rule ending in buckets of sleaze, was it? Nope, it was all about social class.

FWIW I liked John Major and always thought he was a decent kind of man. He's proved to be just that and he speaks out with such eloquent anger against Brexit and the current Tory shitshow.

Right.

So please point me to anything I’ve said about how Angela Rayner should know her place.

It was me who said that because your post gave off a vibe of knowing your place

Well you were completely wrong then. Pointing out that the middle class left has its own snobby tendency has nothing to do with anything I’ve said about AR.

Come on, you socialists secretly admire Thatcher for her contempt for sex and class barriers

Because Thatcher was so good for women? Right. There was only one woman she had time for, and that was herself.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/09/margaret-thatcher-women

At least one Labour supporting poster has said she actively admires Thatcher for her contempt for sex and class barriers.

I really don’t think an opinion piece from the Guardian is worth linking to.

But I accept that one can take different views on what being politically “good for women” is. I seem to recall the trades unions being especially knuckle-headed about women’s rights and freedoms back in the day.

There is a lot of thatcher-love going on today

Weird considering it's over 30 years since she left power. It was a very different time.

Or it could just be an obvious name to come up in the course of a discussion about British politics. If there’s an historical cut-off point for political reference, do please let me know what the rule is.

Thatcher must be spinning in her grave at what today's Tories have done to the country and her Conservative Party.😱

Personally, I couldn't fucking stand the woman.

She spoke very highly of you.