Is Angela Raynor a liar or is it all anti Labour media bias?

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I’m well aware how anti Labour a lot of the main stream media seem to be so I wasn’t paying much attention previously to all the stuff about how she should have paid capital gains tax on her house, etc. she was adamant that she didn’t need to.

So it seems like she said it was her main residence so not liable for capital gains tax. But her husband and kids lived in a house a short distance away apparently for the first five years of their marriage which is unusual. A neighbour who lived next to her “husband’s” house said it was the main family home and Angela definitely lived there.

I’ll be sad if she has lied. Always thought she was on the side of the ordinary person. I guess the police/tax man might have a hard time proving anything though regardless of the neighbour’s statement. If all bills, etc were in the individual names there’s no evidence.

The couple could have avoided CGT by E.g. selling Vicarage Road within18 months of their marriage and pocketing the profits.

So why do you think that short-term maternity cover Charlotte Owen (31) is a life peer?

I have no idea. I don’t know if she was only maternity cover. I don’t know if her career is or is not as described on Wikipedia. What evidence do you have that Owen is Boris’s daughter?

People employed in regular jobs don’t qualify for social housing. They languish on the council wait list for years and never advance up the list.

And so much for upholding her socialist principles - surely buying a council house is completely against that. ‘Right to buy’ was one of the policies Maggie Thatcher introduced which started the social housing shortage.

I have never clained that she was, but her appointment to the Lords at such a young age with almost no experience is ludicrous.

If you don’t think she’s Boris’s daughter, that was a strange quote and question.

It's true to say that, at least in large swathes of England, if you've got a reasonable income you'll probably be directed towards private rentals. However, a single Mum with Rayner's backstory would likely have enough priority to get a place.

Even if what you say were true now, she was allocated the house years ago when the pressure on Social Housing was not as bad as it is today.

Well, that's nonsense. I know several people in low paid regular jobs who have been allocated council housing. Let's not forget that AR worked as a carer, shall we?

IS SHE?!!

I had no idea! Why do you think that?

We don't know anything about Charlotte Owen but she now makes decisions that affect us all.

Why doesn't she provide the relevant information to the public?

If I understood that comment I might respond to it. Makes no sense.

Did you miss all the previous responses directly to you on the last page when you made an earlier dumb comment about Rayner not qualifying for a council home?

The Tory media are doing their best to smear AR because she's a strong-minded, outspoken, working class women. She's not a cap-doffing coward who believes the elite have a God given right to all the power. AR got where she is through hard work, determination and resilience - not through money, privilege and attending the 'right' school. The Tory elite feel very threatened by people like her. The issue over her alleged CGT was fully explained by a tax lawyer on the James O'Brien show (LBC) this morning. His summary ... nothing to see here! Of course, the Daily Fail banging on about AR distracts us from the real issues going on today (or so they think). Fortunately, we plebs are not as thick as the Daily Fail thinks we are💪🏻

Excellent post @123H

Whilst most of what you say is true, as a staunch Labour MP who rose up through the unions, the dichotomy of her buying a council house and making a massive profit as a result somewhat smacks of Toryism.

She late Gen X/very early Millennial. Bought her council house in her late twenties and sold it approx 8 years later with a gross gain of around £40,000.

It's what most of we baby boomers did with Gen X and plenty of Millennials following us down the track. It's only later it's got so difficult to get on the ladder, but even then both my (mid/late millennial) managed it.

There is, I guess, a debate as to whether a Socialist should exercise their right to buy but I'd not blame someone who did if it was the only way off the renting treadmill.

Would you sell your house at a loss?

If you're a socialist and you're poor, renting and in need of things like UC , you're a scrounger who should work harder.

If you're a socialist and you work your way up until you're financially secure, you're a class traitor.

The only way you can win is if you're right wing and doing well, no matter what the reason.

FFS.

The only people who talk about class traitors are the left.

Nonsense, I have seen so many comments on MN stating that if you are financially comfortable and a socialist, you must be a 'champagne socialist'.

I'd put it this way (with right wing press blinkers on):

If you're poor and a Socialist you're a scrounger.

If you're rich and socialist you're a hypocrite and should give your money away to the poor.

At which point you'd be poor again and back to being a scrounger.

I agree that being well-off isn’t - shouldn’t be - a bar to being a socialist (although that term seems remarkably flexible). The criticism is of hypocrisy, like opposing fee paying schools but buying into catchment areas of good state schools, criticising tax ‘dodging’ but using ISAs, inheritance tax plans, paying in cash etc.

Get real. She bought it before she was a politician.

In fact one could argue Thatcher's right to buy scheme did exactly what it was designed to, and broke down class barriers and enabled social mobility.

Exactly @AdamRyan - or should we say that only middle class people deserve to own their own home?

Indeed! That’s one reason why Thatcher was such a far-sighted egalitarian.