Best Prime Minister in your opinion.

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I don't know who I dislike more Rushi or Starmer. Both of them don't have the political weight of a British Prime Minister. If Rushi lacks charisma Starmer never had any. They both don't have any new ideas just repeat some old cliches. I sometimes wonder if Argentina would invade Falklands tomorrow would they have the iron lady's balls?
Anyway my question is who do you think is a leader which this nation deserves? It can either Labour or Conservative it need to be a living politician.

And Rory Stewart for a Cabinet position,

@thegruffalosmaw. I agree with you. Gordon Brown was a decent Prime Minister. The media had it in for him, made easy after Blair.

It's makes me angry when I think about quality of integrity since. The media absolutely had it in for Brown. The shame of our media was absolutely at fault with Brown. It was unfortunate that he was caught on the mic saying an old woman was "bigoted" but the media blew that totally out of proportion. And also he was probably right anyway... Also they tried to say he had a temper and was a bully. I remember that. Well to be honest, Part of me thinks, so what is he did in private. I think that was the media thing to outseat him because he wasn't Tony Blair or Tory... when he stood up preceding the Scottish referendum to say to the Scots about the benefits of the Barnet Formula, devolution, etc etc he was absolutely excellent and gave such a powerful speech and spoke facts, I thought and seemed like he actually cared about his country. Both the UK and Scotland. I miss him in politics.

The other thing about Gordon Brown was he seemed to have almost zero ego or personal greed. He genuinely only seemed to care about what was best for the country. And the economy was growing again when he left office.

All this talk of Rory Stewart, he needs to join the Labour Party.

I think Starmer has also demonstrated his competence by turning the party around from Corbyns anti semitic, momentum infested left wing nightmare to a credible opposition with serious policies in 4 years.
I think he's the right person to deal with the mess we are currently in.

Does anyone actually know what the Labour Party's policies are? 🤔

@KnickerlessParsons , they won't be disclosed this far ahead of a GE.

Gordon Brown
Theresa May (good apart from on Brexit)
Caroline Lucas
Dominic Grieve

Yvette Cooper is a good shadow Home Secretary but she was too pro lockdown wanting to stop travel well after everyone had been vaccinated.

Theresa May was knocked mainly because she was female, not far right and not youthful.
People tend to vote for personality.

Ruth Davidson if has to be Conservative
Gordon Brown if Labour.
Absolutely none of the potential candidates at the moment are fit to fill the post imo.
I won’t be voting, I don’t think there’s anyone remotely suitable.

Tony Blair did well for:, early years, sure start, working tax credit

There's a summary of the base here: https://labourlist.org/2023/05/labour-manifesto-2024-election-what-policies-npf-party/

Rory Stewart is intelligent and would probably have been a competent leader and it was unfortunate he didn't win because instead we got what we got. I actually think is better doing what he is doing. I don't think he would ever join the Labour Party. He is a Tory. It's not his time to come back into politics, I don't think. He's better using his intelligence in other areas because politics in the uk is almost beyond parody now and entertainment. Which is a crying shame, but I think it's true. I hope Starmer is being quite clever with the way he is handling things. I still want PR and a forward direction for the UK as a whole. What the conservatives have done to the county of the UK over the last 13 years is completely shameful and it is going to take decades to recover. That's my rant about it anyway. I feel strongly that we need PR. I know the thread is about individuals, but I really believe we have to move forward from Populism but it isn't going to go away very fast unfortunately....

My cabinet would be:

Prime Minister - Margaret Thatcher. Reason - she is not afraid of anything

Home Secretary - Nigel Farage. Reason - he was an MEP for 21 years. So, he was in the best position to know that Brexit is best

Chancellor - Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg. Reason - He knows numbers well and has a successfull investment company to prove it.

😂I'm sorry, but you cannot be serious with this selection! I don't mean to be mean, but seriously. Nigel Farage? Jacob Rees Mogg? You are entitled to your opinion but I would love to know that you are actually joking! :-)

Judging by other posts, she is 100% serious. Margert Thatcher (sell everything we have to the lowest bidder) Nigel Farage (Putin superfan) and Jacob Rees-Mogg (foodbank lover) would be her dream team. Worse, people like @GlobeTrotter2000 won, govenements for the last eight years have been bending over backwards to give her everything she wants. Hence the massive mess we are now in and the state of the country.

Rishi Sunak, all day long.

Gordon Brown 100 percent.

I repeat. Policies, NOT personalities.

Starmer is my choice. All those bemoaning he lacks charisma - vote for the politics not the personality. We need someone steady and reliable. He's got a great team together too.

Incidentally, Rory Stewart was a member of the Labour Party when he was younger. He has intimated that he would join a Starmer line-up/Labour Party. He would be a great Foreign Secretary because of his previous experience in Cabinet and diplomatic service especially in the Middle East and the Far East.

Rushi sunak at least has the basic competence to keep the economy running possibly serviceably to keep the lower classes alive-ish and accumulate wealth for the wealthy. Avoid disaster and keep the patient company stable but critical. At least he’s not a dimwit lunatic (truss) a cosplaying oddity selfish person (JRM) or a narcissistic haystack (Johnson).

Biden’s not the world’s most ideal. I’d have Kamala Harris or AOC up next. But he was elected and most sensible people took a huge breath and thanked whatever higher power for the respite. Because at least no more Trump.

And Margaret Thatcher not being afraid of anything isn’t a reason to elect her AT ALL. Do you think those guys who crashed into the WTC buildings were afraid of anything? Do you think the fucking guy at the beginning of dances with wolves who exposes himself to enemy fire while riding with no hands on the reins on a horse was afraid of anything? Do you think I was afraid of anything when I took ten times what should have been a fatal overdose and then took further measures to ensure my suicide worked? Should we be leaders?

Rishi Sunak is NOT competent with the economy. It's all smoke and mirrors with him in that regard. Have a look at the economic figures while he was chancellor? Do you think it's financially competent to award BILLION pound contracts to the likes of Michelle Mone in order to secure PPE that was UNFIT FOR PURPOSE and HAD TO BE BURNED? Not to mention Dido Harding for a test and trace system that was also UNFIT FOR PURPOSE. Nurses died because of this. Don't forget this.

He is a WEAK Prime Minister and just because he wears a smart suit, does not. I repeat. Does not make him reliable with the economy. Je rest ma valise.... :-)

Satire is alive and well.

@Kendodd Margert Thatcher (sell everything we have to the lowest bidder)

I think you mean Gordon Brown's sale of UK gold at the lowest price.

@fixingmylife 😂I'm sorry, but you cannot be serious with this selection!

Well. let's be truthful. Mrs Thatcher for Prime Minister is difficult as she died in 2013.

Sir Jacob Rees Mogg presented the argument on QT several times that the poorest people in the UK spend most of their money on; food, clothing and footwear. The EU external tariffs are high on such items as EU wants to protect it's cartel. He was never once challenged by the other panelists.

The link is

Will getting rid of EU tariffs help the worst off? - Full Fact

Nigel Farage would have been the best Home Secretary or Foreign Secretary as he knew the inner workings of the EU inside out after 21 years as an MEP. Who could be better to deal with the EU on behalf of the UK?

T May wiped the EU's rear (because she was a remain supporter) as evidenced by her signing (illegaly) the crappy deal that was rejected three times by UK MP's after they were allowed to see the legal advice.

I will vote Reform. So Richard Tice is PM for me.

OK. So now it’s possible for anyone with an ideological hatred of an institution, who gained their platform due to speaking in favour of the destruction and dissolution of said institution while earning a pretty good living for it, to be qualified to have positive relations with it because he knows it? Knows how to milk it for all it’s worth definitely. Knows how to work with it for the benefit of citizens? Absolutely not.

@GlobeTrotter2000 Your reasoning is laughable. Margaret Thatcher (yes, of course she is dead) sold our WATER. What kind of a Prime Minister sells off our WATER? This act alone disqualifies her IMO. :-)

Also, imagine if you were one of the mining families. Her "Iron fist" shouldn't be applauded. She forced miners to work in dangerous conditions. And she took milk away from children in schools. All she cared about was money and her own interests.

As for Richard Tice? OMG. I would go as far as to say he is a borderline conspiracy theorist, because he supports an agenda that is akin to an anti-science in terms of promoting disbelief in Climate Change. I don't know if you have children, but if you think voting for Reform UK is going to help us in a Climate Emergency, I think you need to read up on the scientific facts about Climate Change. Sorry, but he is pedalling and promoting lies. You are entitled to vote for who you want of course, but just a friendly warning. :-)

@CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau Do you think those guys who crashed into the WTC buildings were afraid of anything?

Maybe their families had been threatened? Watch the movie, Devils Double, about a guy who looked very like Saddam's son.

guy at the beginning of dances with wolves who exposes himself to enemy fire while riding with no hands on the reins on a horse was afraid of anything

Maybe he (Kevin Costner) thought his US$50 million fee justified the risk?

Do you think I was afraid of anything when I took ten times what should have been a fatal overdose and then took further measures to ensure my suicide worked

Hopefully that was said in jest. If not, maybe your time would be better spent with counselling than on MN?