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Best Prime Minister in your opinion.

205 replies

Tulipsroses · 12/12/2023 21:21

I don't know who I dislike more Rushi or Starmer. Both of them don't have the political weight of a British Prime Minister. If Rushi lacks charisma Starmer never had any. They both don't have any new ideas just repeat some old cliches. I sometimes wonder if Argentina would invade Falklands tomorrow would they have the iron lady's balls?
Anyway my question is who do you think is a leader which this nation deserves? It can either Labour or Conservative it need to be a living politician.

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Bitchinabonnet · 13/12/2023 21:18

Hugh Grant

therealcookiemonster · 13/12/2023 21:49

Toddlerteaplease · 13/12/2023 20:19

Larry the cat.

100%. he has outlived many PM's tenures and hopefully many more to come. and he is adorable.

etmoiandme · 13/12/2023 21:55

Neriah · 13/12/2023 19:51

Paul Edington

Oui!

etmoiandme · 13/12/2023 21:55

@Maireas Barbara, what an icon.

therealcookiemonster · 13/12/2023 21:55

Perfectlystill · 13/12/2023 20:45

Penny Mordaunt

last I checked, she is still carrying the sword. also do you remember when she lost it during the tory conference speech?

Penny Mordaunt urges Conservatives to 'stand up and fight' #news #politics #currentaffairs

Penny Mordaunt urges Conservatives to 'stand up and fight' during her speech at the Conservative Party conference in Manchester.

https://youtu.be/PKkx8LCCCNY?si=_Vb3kBbcjbHdnWBm

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 13/12/2023 21:58

Rory Tory Stewart! This country would be better if he had been chosen.

SnapdragonToadflax · 13/12/2023 22:01

I don't particularly want the PM to have charisma. I just want them to be intelligent, pragmatic and to sit somewhere to the left of the current Tory party (not difficult).

Keir Starmer will be fine. He'll choose a decent Cabinet made up of decent people.

therealcookiemonster · 13/12/2023 22:04

loving the support for Rory Stewart on here. maybe there is hope after all. to the naysayers - he walked across Europe and large swathes of Asia. he lived in an afghani village for quite a few months. I don't think a typical 'posh boy' could have managed that.

he left politics because it was affecting his mental health/physical health. maybe there is more of a backstory, but maybe not. he is an intelligent and learned man, and sadly he doesn't have the right personality type to engage with the average voter so his learning comes across as smug. but I don't think he is. he is not salt of the earth for sure.

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 13/12/2023 22:15

Anyone who utters the phrase 'let me be clear' should be instantly barred from politics.

If only Tim Farron wasn't quite so religious I reckon he could have made a decent stab at the job if he wasn't a Lib Dem.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 13/12/2023 22:53

therealcookiemonster · 13/12/2023 22:04

loving the support for Rory Stewart on here. maybe there is hope after all. to the naysayers - he walked across Europe and large swathes of Asia. he lived in an afghani village for quite a few months. I don't think a typical 'posh boy' could have managed that.

he left politics because it was affecting his mental health/physical health. maybe there is more of a backstory, but maybe not. he is an intelligent and learned man, and sadly he doesn't have the right personality type to engage with the average voter so his learning comes across as smug. but I don't think he is. he is not salt of the earth for sure.

On the contrary, this is classic posh boy. They often combine hardiness with breathtaking self-confidence and - crucially - the funds to take a year off to tramp around central Asia assuming he wasn't being paid by the SIS, of course. Most famous explorers/adventurers - Ranulph Fiennes, Bear Grylls etc - are exactly in this mould.

Crispynoodle · 13/12/2023 23:01

Jeremy Corbyn

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 13/12/2023 23:02

Crispynoodle · 13/12/2023 23:01

Jeremy Corbyn

Oh bless. Is that you, Jezzer?

Fleetheart · 13/12/2023 23:13

Yvette Cooper - hardworking , tough, sensible and does live in the real world. also has experience of government. Just some people who actually care about normal individuals would be nice and some honesty and integrity- this is sadly lacking in all Tory ministers at the moment!

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 14/12/2023 08:56

I don't mind Yvette Cooper. Or Chris Murphy.

puncheur · 14/12/2023 09:08

MargaritaThyme · 13/12/2023 21:03

I know that after Oxford he was an army officer then a ‘diplomat’ (official version, unofficially he was an MI6 officer). Not sure any of that qualifies him to understand the lives of working class people in Bradford any more than Cameron or Johnson did, though. Perhaps that’s just my class prejudices.

I'm pretty sure that someone who spent two years walking solo across Asia (including Iran and Afghanistan) and speaks 11 languages, connecting with people from completely different cultures to his own, will be able to understand the lives of working class Brits.

TheCatfordCat · 14/12/2023 09:12

I think it's time Labour had a female leader and I would put Yvette Cooper up as a good candidate. She puts in the wirk and stands up in the HoC with evidence based argements.

I don't rate Starmer, his policies sound great but lack details. He's quite woolly with the facts. I don't think Burnham is up to the task. He's a great mayor, did a fab job sticking up for Manchester during the Pandemic, but PM? I can't see it.

For the Tories I think Kemi Badenoch would be a good PM. She's not interested in bulls**t and it's evident she reads a lot about her brief. If she were PM she would actually read her papers unlike Boris who couldn't be arsed and look where that got the country.

I've always thought Rory Stewart was the archetypal Tory prig but he knows his onions. I'm glad he went down the publishing/media route actually because his stories of Afghanistan are very insightful. PM? I don't know? I think he might've been out of his depth.

Kim066 · 14/12/2023 09:17

Ben Wallace.

And no longer alive but John Smith.

ApplePieand · 14/12/2023 09:19

Theresa May and agree with others, having seen her speak Kemi Badenoch

DuvetCovers · 14/12/2023 09:31

MargaritaThyme · 13/12/2023 20:26

The best PM of my lifetime was Tony Blair (until he lost his mind over Iraq, obv), and it’s not even close. Nobody currently in Parliament comes close, obviously, which is a sad reflection of how debased British politics has become in the last decade.
If I were forced to choose a current MP, it would probably be Rachel Reeves or Yvette Cooper. I actually voted for Yvette in the 2015 Labour leadership election.

Edited

100% this.

In my lifetime there have been two prime ministers who've actually had vision and the ability to lead others to see it, and who've made arguments for policies which they believed would improve people's lives. Tony Blair is one and while I certainly didn't agree with everything he did, his broad aims to modernise and make the country fairer and more prosperous I did agree with. (The other PM who actually made a case for her own vision was Thatcher, with whom I completely disagree on almost everything, but acknowledge she was an effective leader.)

The rest have merely treated running the country a bit like trying to stay on top of a bucking bronco- no effort made to make a case for something better, only to stay PM by following public opinion instead of leading it.

Most underrated PM- Theresa May. Again I largely disagree with her on almost everything but imagine if we'd had her in charge during the pandemic rather than Boris.

KnittedCardi · 14/12/2023 09:42

Andy Street

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 14/12/2023 09:47

Big fab of Yvette Cooper.

dubsie · 14/12/2023 09:50

Andy Burnham

dubsie · 14/12/2023 09:53

Thatcher was a disaster for the UK largely because she increased inequality but Blair I'll agree on.

MargaritaThyme · 14/12/2023 09:53

he left politics because it was affecting his mental health/physical health.

Stewart left politics when he realised he was never going to become leader of the Tory party. He isn’t the first politician to do that (eg David Miliband) but that’s the truth.

Growlybear83 · 14/12/2023 09:53

Definitely Andy Burnham. I hope he stands in the next General Election.

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