Boris for PM

[Dodie66]

Reports on sky news say that Boris might stand again for PM. How do you feel about that?
i actually liked Boris but he made a lot of mistakes

There is talk that there may be a pact between RS and BJ but not sure how credible/likely that is. That would certainly be better for the party as a whole but it depends if egos get in the way.

That's because the people who are enthusiastic enough about the extremist Tory policies these days to either remain a member or join up are loons who don't understand how anything works.

Because reality mainly.

They don't like it and don't wanna hear about it.

A delicate balance in boldness is required. One could end up acting as kingmaker for the other without even wanting to. I don't think they could enter a pact. The water has not had time to move under the bridge.

Didn't he himself come under investigation for exactly the same thing he'd accused Boris of doing?

No, only poorly informed Tories with a weak grasp of reality think that. Sadly quite a few of those in this country though, it has to ge said.

Someone had to say no to Boris and well done to Rishi for taking a moral stand. Removing yourself because a leader has compromised the party’s ethics is NOT back stabbing

I dont care what Rishi wears or what building work he has underway, what matters is his ability to lead

And what had he led? When did he lead? Who did he lead?

I suppose you don't care Sunak was equally fined by the police for breaking the same covid rules but you're disgusted with Boris. Go on and bury your head in the sand.

Moral stand my foot!

I'm beyond arguing with Tory trolls anymore - fuck them and ignore them.

Look at the state of this piece of shit!

I honestly can't think of one single reason why Boris would be a good idea. People seem to have very short memories.

I think Sunak is biding his time to see if Boris really does have 100 backers, because I don't think he will want to run against him and suffer another loss at the hands of the party members.

3 holidays since leaving office that's all you need to know oh and this oldie but goodie from his ex-boss and decent (they do exist!) Tory Max Hastings

If the Johnson family had stuck to show business like the Osmonds, Marx Brothers or von Trapp family, the world would be a better place. Yet the Tories, in their terror, have elevated a cavorting charlatan to the steps of Downing Street, and they should expect to pay a full forfeit when voters get the message. If the price of Johnson proves to be Corbyn, the blame will rest with the Conservative party, which is about to foist a tasteless joke upon the British people – who will not find it funny for long.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

Poor old Nightvision I would have let it stand I have broad shoulders 😂

Not sure it was nadine to be fair, but we will soon find out if he does. It’s Monday it’s to be done by. Boris won’t stand if he doesn’t, and Rishi may not stand if he does,,,

Near billionaire, Sunak has flooded the membership with 10s of thousands of new members biding his time and they can only vote online and his FIL owns a megabucks computer company Infosys. Whatever else he is no fool he knows he's got it in the bag. Current odds - he's 2/5 Boris 11/4. Johnson is just winging it as ever.

Badenoch backs Sunak, and Sunak and Johnson due to meet. I think it's all over.

www.skyscanner.net/

It’s interesting neither sunak or Boris have confirmed they will stand, sunak has the publicly declared votes and he has still not confirmed he will stand, that tells us something. Something big.

as said, it appears he is waiting to see if Boris gets the 100. If he does Rishi may not stand and instead try to partner with him, if he doesn’t get the 100 Boris will likely back him and not stand himself.

boris and Rishi meeting tonight, both will know what votes Boris will have by that meeting. We will then see who declares they will stand.

id be very surprised if Boris supporters were saying he will stand and have the support if he doesn’t.

so I think one of three things are about to happen

boris stands and Rishi doesn’t, Rishi agrees to be his chancellor
rishi stands and Boris backs him, he will be Home Secretary or something.
they noth stand and it goes to the members, I think this is looking increasingly unlikely and this will be all over by Monday.

both men have not confirmed they are standing for a reason. Lots of mps have not confirmed their vote yet, again this will be for a reason. So there is a lot going on behind closed doors.

I reckon we will know tomorrow latest.

I reckon you're spot on, @Anniefrenchfry - at the moment I think it will be option 1, but I want to be wrong.

id be very surprised if Boris supporters were saying he will stand and have the support if he doesn’t.

Because Team Boris is renowned for telling the truth?

His public support has barely budged since yesterday. Why, if he has over 100 public backers, are they in hiding?

My theory is that the mad Boris fans came out for him instantly. Anyone giving thought to their nomination will have remembered what caused him to resign, seen the Bank of England warning against a Boris return, the Telegraph not supporting him, and the reminder that the Standards Committee will most likely find against him which could trigger a by-election and the need for a new prime minister AGAIN.

@Anniefrenchfry - yes I agree too, I think those are going to be the options. My money (though not necessarily my choice) is on Option 1. Boris I don't think will want to come back for anything other than the top job and I think Rishi has age/time on his side (and also an opportunity could present itself sooner depending upon the result of the investigation ) so I think he would settle for Chancellor for the time being.

I would love to be a fly on the wall.

Ok say you’re right that Explains why boris hasn’t confirmed he is standing,,,so why has Rishi not declared he will stand? He’s got the numbers. But the man’s not said he will stand. It’s not that he’s just too busy or forgot. There is a reason Rishi hasn’t said he will stand yet.

and there is a reason so many mps are not declaring. And that’s because they will simply support the one standing. They are waiting to see who stands.

remember this is all over Monday, we know who stands and how many mps vote. This isn’t some long term contest. It’s already sat night and in about 40 hours it’s crunch time and Rishi still hasn’t confirmed but is going to meet boris instead.

Rishi is indeed probably keeping his powder dry, but if Boris doesn’t have 100 public backers, then how can he pressure Rishi into anything?

That’s why the claim from anonymous sources that he did have the hundred. Because he doesn’t.

No if Boris doesn’t have 100 Rishi will know. So again. Why is Rishi not declaring he will Even stand? That’s not keeping your powder dry, it’s not some big secret.

If Rishi isn’t declaring he will stand then that’s because it’s not a given he will.’

if he does declare it’s highly likely boris won’t….and vice Versa. Rishi won’t go head to head with Boris to the members and boris won’t stand if he doesn’t have 100.