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Boris for PM

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Dodie66 · 20/10/2022 16:12

Reports on sky news say that Boris might stand again for PM. How do you feel about that?
i actually liked Boris but he made a lot of mistakes

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LeMoo · 21/10/2022 18:05

There are a couple of marches in London to demand a GE on the 5th November.

Appropriate date but some people may have trouble getting into London with the reduced train service (rail strike).

vera99 · 21/10/2022 18:14

EddieHowesBlackandWhiteArmy · 21/10/2022 17:52

My MP has stated he is backing Boris Johnson. I could vomit with anger. I knew he was a self serving prick but this is new depths. I can’t wait until he gets thrown out on his ear at the next GE.

If he has surgery book a slot and go and let him know how you feel.

vera99 · 21/10/2022 18:16

Those no-confidence Brady letter templates will come in handy. If and when Johnson gets in then I imagine there will be a few in pronto.

vera99 · 21/10/2022 18:24

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Sources close to the Privileges Committee say the evidence about partygate is so damning against Boris Johnson that he could be 'gone by Christmas' if he returns as Conservative Leader and Prime Minister.

EddieHowesBlackandWhiteArmy · 21/10/2022 18:42

vera99 · 21/10/2022 18:14

If he has surgery book a slot and go and let him know how you feel.

I honestly don’t think I could. I cry when I’m really angry and right now I’m incandescent. I’d be removed for being hysterical.

i am however going to FOI his claim that he’s had more people contacting him wanting him to support Johnson than other candidates.

He lied in his election propaganda so I know it’s comes easily to him.

Kendodd · 21/10/2022 18:47

LeMoo · 21/10/2022 18:05

There are a couple of marches in London to demand a GE on the 5th November.

Appropriate date but some people may have trouble getting into London with the reduced train service (rail strike).

Theres a rejoin march tomorrow. I'm going to go but fear I might get arrested when we pass Downing St.

marchforrejoin.co.uk/home-1

chaosmaker · 21/10/2022 18:47

SquirrelSoShiny · 20/10/2022 18:21

I'm watching the news and the Boris love. I actually watch it and think humanity is so stupid that as a species we probably deserve to quietly disappear from the earth.

Being saying this for decades

GreenLunchBox · 21/10/2022 18:51

Never thought I'd in a million years sat this but I want BlowJo back. Only so he can hammer the final nail into the Tories' coffin.

If anyone wants a laugh, here's Trevor Noah's take in our shitshow 😂
twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1583268193887408128?t=oEH0O5cROFyEQuFt71yJVQ&s=19

vera99 · 21/10/2022 18:58

EddieHowesBlackandWhiteArmy · 21/10/2022 18:42

I honestly don’t think I could. I cry when I’m really angry and right now I’m incandescent. I’d be removed for being hysterical.

i am however going to FOI his claim that he’s had more people contacting him wanting him to support Johnson than other candidates.

He lied in his election propaganda so I know it’s comes easily to him.

It really is criminal now that the Tory party at a time of national crisis when millions are seriously suffering should be reconsidering bringing back this charlatan, narcissistic, sad excuse of a man of the highest office. They care only about themselves. I hope there are enough decent ones left that will force the issue and go for a GE if he gets back. Covid missed a trick way back when.

GreenLunchBox · 21/10/2022 19:02

I've read the ERG are going to decide on Monday who to back. If they can't get Kemi or Braverman they will back Boris and there's about 69 of them. I doubt those two will get many votes so 'hopefully' it means BlowJo is back 🤮🍿

MarshaBradyo · 21/10/2022 19:02

Is the 1922 committee generally pro Johnson?

Wondering why the membership votes are key.

Or is it more process and involvement for campaigning reasons

GreenLunchBox · 21/10/2022 19:02

*60

vera99 · 21/10/2022 19:03

chaosmaker · 21/10/2022 18:47

Being saying this for decades

Yup people are thick - it doesn't mean they are bad but thickness reigns and evil, greedy and sinister people take advantage of that.

1984

If there is hope, wrote Winston, it lies in the proles.
If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated. The Party could not be overthrown from within. Its enemies, if it had any enemies, had no way of coming together or even of identifying one another. Even if the legendary Brotherhood existed, as just possibly it might, it was inconceivable that its members could ever assemble in larger numbers than twos and threes. Rebellion meant a look in the eyes, an inflexion of the voice, at the most, an occasional whispered word. But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength. would have no need to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it? And yet-!

He remembered how once he had been walking down a crowded street when a tremendous shout of hundreds of voices women's voices -- had burst from a side-street a little way ahead. It was a great formidable cry of anger and despair, a deep, loud 'Oh-o-o-o-oh!' that went humming on like the reverberation of a bell. His heart had leapt. It's started! he had thought. A riot! The proles are breaking loose at last! When he had reached the spot it was to see a mob of two or three hundred women crowding round the stalls of a street market, with faces as tragic as though they had been the doomed passengers on a sinking ship. But at this moment the general despair broke down into a multitude of individual quarrels. It appeared that one of the stalls had been selling tin saucepans. They were wretched, flimsy things, but cooking-pots of any kind were always difficult to get. Now the supply had unexpectedly given out. The successful women, bumped and jostled by the rest, were trying to make off with their saucepans while dozens of others clamoured round the stall, accusing the stall-keeper of favouritism and of having more saucepans somewhere in reserve. There was a fresh outburst of yells. Two bloated women, one of them with her hair coming down, had got hold of the same saucepan and were trying to tear it out of one another's hands. For a moment they were both tugging, and then the handle came off. Winston watched them disgustedly. And yet, just for a moment, what almost frightening power had sounded in that cry from only a few hundred throats! Why was it that they could never shout like that about anything that mattered?

He wrote:
Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.
That, he reflected, might almost have been a transcription from one of the Party textbooks. The Party claimed, of course, to have liberated the proles from bondage. Before the Revolution

JocelynBurnell · 21/10/2022 19:12

The UK trade deficit will reach record proportions over the coming months and likely to reach a record 7.5 per cent of GDP in the final quarter.

When the UK was viewed as a stable economy, we were able to ride these waves and get away with the above. We were able to spend more than we earned as the UK was viewed as trustworthy and stable in the longterm.

Unfortunately, the UK is no longer viewed as as stable and and its government is no longer viewed as credible. What has happened in recent week has shown how much the tide has turned.

We are in for a difficult decade ahead with an economy that won't be able to grow and an aging population will face severe cutbacks in public spending.

Kendodd · 21/10/2022 19:23

LeMoo · 21/10/2022 18:05

There are a couple of marches in London to demand a GE on the 5th November.

Appropriate date but some people may have trouble getting into London with the reduced train service (rail strike).

Do you have a link? I can't find them online.

LeMoo · 21/10/2022 19:39

@Kendodd here's one, I'll find the other

Saw them on twitter but don't have an account so don't know how good links will be

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LeMoo · 21/10/2022 19:45

Here's the other one but I can't find a link for it now. The first is searchable via people's assembly

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Agsiajva · 21/10/2022 19:45

I’m personally horrified at the thought that a PM can be ousted by his own MPs, then swan back in.

we do not have a presidential system, so this bleating about his mandate does my head in.

However, I’m horrified at any Tory or right wing PM who are killing off my patients with their policies.

I’d be interested to know what solid one nation Tories think. It’s clearly notions of self preservation clouding minds as to elect back a corrupt PM, it astounds me.

However, I’m a socialist who was only a Labour member at the time of Corbyn. I have no Tory friends. I don’t live in England anymore which is the Tory heartland, so I’m out of tune with what England actually wants or thinks. My parents (one left wing Labour one centre- right wing Labour) live in England still and haven’t encountered much support for a Boris rerun but then some people seem to have forgotten that there is an option other than Conservative party.

Agsiajva · 21/10/2022 19:47

Meant to say - I think a GE is crucial. Up here there is huge demand for a GE and Scottish independence is getting a boost in support thanks to the Tories.

Lonelycrab · 21/10/2022 19:55

I’m personally horrified at the thought that a PM can be ousted by his own MPs, then swan back in

Yes and then to be engulfed by an enquiry which may see us all without another PM again. Over and over again, as bullshit ideology comes up against reality.

The Tory party are dysfunctional. They’re not able to form a coherent government, so by continuing this charade they’re not acting in the country’s interest. They’re thinking about themselves.

vera99 · 21/10/2022 19:59

LeMoo · 21/10/2022 19:45

Here's the other one but I can't find a link for it now. The first is searchable via people's assembly

The Nov 5th protest nights are usually pretty edgy with a lot of anarchists, class war and others looking for a ruck usually ending with a kettle.

Benjispruce4 · 21/10/2022 20:12

I can’t get over the car that Boris has the ego to put himself back in as a contender.He must have some kind of personality disorder. Narcissist?

Benjispruce4 · 21/10/2022 20:12

The fact not car

LeMoo · 21/10/2022 20:13

vera99 · 21/10/2022 19:59

The Nov 5th protest nights are usually pretty edgy with a lot of anarchists, class war and others looking for a ruck usually ending with a kettle.

Oh really? I've not heard of them before (yet I swear I don't live under a rock)!

Surely the peoples assembly one would be peaceful?

vera99 · 21/10/2022 20:34

LeMoo · 21/10/2022 20:13

Oh really? I've not heard of them before (yet I swear I don't live under a rock)!

Surely the peoples assembly one would be peaceful?

It's the million mask march - the more the merrier - the People's Assembly will no doubt be peaceful and don't let it put you off but if it's not raining I expect thousands with fireworks and anger in their bellies.

www.facebook.com/events/trafalgar-square-london-uk/million-mask-march-2022-expectusuk/1273472269827372/