Boris for PM

[Dodie66]

Reports on sky news say that Boris might stand again for PM. How do you feel about that?
i actually liked Boris but he made a lot of mistakes

What? Labour won’t even define what a woman is.

Boris ate a slice of cake, and Truss and Kwarteng have driven the economy, pensions and housing market into a brick wall during a 45 day joyride. Who are the criminals here?

Sir John Major was a 'philanderer' who shagged Edwina Currie on the cabinet table, and Blair started an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation. Not sure many of our PMs have been paragons of moral probity, tbh.

It's like bald men fighting over a wig (that needs some work given the Mordaunt is standing but for the purposes of the analogy she is self-identifying as a bald man).

We seem to be in a Black Mirror episode with an incredibly cruel plot twist where there is a real possibility that Johnson may come back - as that would solve anything. The Tory party seems to be in its death throws and the sooner it dies and have a general election the better.

It has occurred to me that Johnson may just be trolling his successor by threatening to run as a lark and then not actually doing so as he seems to be in clover now with his endless holidays and rumours of a $350,000 payoff for his speech at a US insurance conference and a meet and greet which he can do in his sleep. Why would he give that up for all the hassles and grim headwinds he would be advancing into? Which is pretty much what Trump is doing with his will I / won't I run schtick.

Sunak is still the bookie's favourite at 13/8, PMJ 9/2 and BJ 14/1 - it would seem the headbangers are the first to reveal their hands and may peak early. If he was to win hopefully enough Tories will become independent or cross the floor that a vote of no confidence would become more likely and force a GE. Though that said turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

Why are some people incapable of separating personality from politics? Objectively speaking what is desperately needed is someone to unite the party and steady the markets, and who won't increase borrowing. Johnson's entire philosophy is about borrowing! And he definitely won't unite the party!

If they want to install him then the Tories will eat themselves in the process of squabbling and in fighting, and make themselves unelectable for at least a decade. Good riddance.

It's just a shame they have damaged our economy, increased all our mortgage payments and made us an international laughing stock in the process.

What? Labour won’t even define what a woman is

What use is that when 100s of babies have died due to under funding of maternity services since 2010?

the latest scandal involved 45 needless deaths in Kent.

They've had 12,5 years to fix things.

It's now clear the Conservative party have NO-ONE competent to lead the Government therefore they are unfit to govern.

Crisis after crisis of their own making. They haven't actually been addressing what needs to happen for the country in economic turmoil because they've been concentrating on saving their own skins and petty infighting. Gah!!! Just be gone the lot of you!

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the ifs and buts of the standards committee isn’t really something anyone is focusing on seriously right now

But why not? It’s only a few more weeks before it starts, not some unspecified point years and years away.

What do Johnson supporters expect to happen? There’s apparently lots of evidence and no shortage of people that will come forward, and with partygate there were so many gatherings during lockdown- more than people initially thought once the evidence was looked at, so it seems obvious, or at least likely to me that the same thing will happen- he’s guilty and by a large margin.

Maybe they expect him to be let off? Basically saying we shouldn’t have any form of standards or ethics and MPs should have zero scrutiny?

Maybe they think that he’ll somehow wriggle out of it?

It just seems to me like a very serious barrier looming and I don’t see how he gets round it.

And if guilty then he has to resign, and we’ll be looking for the 4th PM in less than 9 months, and we’ll be in an even deeper mess than we are now.

#generalelectionNOW

No more musical chairs from the Tories. They're only good at organising cheese and wine meetings!

It would be madness to reselect Boris...he could easily end up being suspended...and then we're back on the mad merry go round

We are at least 2 Tory leaders away from a GE. Which probably means Xmas.

If he wasn't good enough 7 weeks ago-and he wasn't-he isn't good enough now. And his idea of serving his constituents in the meantime has been one holiday after another. Boris supports only Boris.

In fairness, if you are living in Uxbridge and worried about how you will be your energy costs and mortgage this coming winter, there was nothing more comforting this week than to know that your sitting MP, one Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, was sunning his fat arse in the Caribbean.

Ffs to Boris but at this point whatever gives us a snap GE so we can get the whole corrupt, stinking lot of them out of No 10, I'm in favour of

I can only imagine this is the desire for Boris to come back. Only Boris has a mandate from the public - having won in a landslide victory in 2019 - so they (opposition) would have to end the request for a GE until the end of the current term (2 years). However, if someone other than Boris is elected leader then the push for a GE will continue ....
I never voted for Boris, I think he has a place and that place is being on Have I Got News for You, where he can be ripped to shreds by Ian and Paul. Then, he's entertaining. In all other circumstances. No thanks. I'd like to see someone honest, respected and talented to be PM. Sadly, I don't see anyone from any party fitting that description.

@Sleepysophie Boris destroyed his mandate way before he was kicked out of office, but yes I agree with your point and it's worrisome.

The ego on that man!

Gilt yields are going up at the prospect of a Johnson win - Hunt was steadying these markets if he does then it's falling pound and interest rates rises again. They are going to crash the economy it's criminal it really is.

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It’s tempting to dismiss these market moves as academic.
But they really matter, because they feed into the interest rates we all experience.
This morning traders were pricing in 5.1% BoE interest rates next May.
That’s now gone up above 5.25%.
All in the space of an hour or so.

Yes. If Johnson gets back in - and he may well - then if the hearing is damning he may well be booted out again. Best chance yet to force a General Election.

Happy Christmas to all if so.

Meantime the Economy is even more damaged so none of us can afford Xmas.

Labour may well want Sunak to do some heavy lifting before they give it a go.

Otherwise it’s a steaming pile of poop and good luck. They won’t have much room to manoeuvre and the unions will be ready for the pay rises.

You mean nurses, HCP's, teachers, care workers, posties, junior doctors and many other groups on average or below average wages.

The sorts of people we rely on and have had 12 years of 0% or 1% pay rises and are using food banks to get by.

Why do you deny them a pay rise? do you support freezing benefits and pensions too?

Of course the party that has wrecked the economy in just 4 weeks shouldn't at least try to put it right.

National debt for the next 12 months is predicted to double because of these right wing lunatics, mostly due to extra interest payments, as 18 months of the energy cap has now come off - who will be paying for that?

Mortgages and Govt borrowing costs have rocketed since their disastrous budget.

Two issues.

How to pay for them, we’ve seen the limit to borrowing and that applies to Labour, the markets are jumpy atm

Inflationary pressure, Sunak was spot on with market predictions and also led with get inflation under control as a priority, which is correct

Also the markets like anyone who talks about fiscal responsibility- Hunt

So if Labour can do same fine. It’s not really about not wanting it, more that there’s not as much room to manoeuvre.

Oh the wheedling of politicians! Have Johnson back when they just booted him out? Integrity? Ah! Look at Labour! Starmer supports Corbyn in his election bid then defrock the man when convenient. Integrity? All the same. Whatever you think of Truss’ misguided attempt she did have some convictions albeit short ones.

Yet many of these companies have and are making huge profits.

Unless wages are addressed in care and health, there will be no health service, same with education, no teachers = no education system fit for 21stC.

One thing we could easily do that would rise GDP, meet market approval, lowering borrowing costs and increase productivity is join the Single Market.

Pretty straight forward and its one thing i am very disappointed in Labour, though i do get why they had to say no to it.

But the Tories have no such concerns, Sunak or BJ could announce thats the plan and the Mail would back the idea 100%.

Hunt hasn't calmed markets completely, gilt yields way higher than pre budget, £/$ still lower.

Objectively speaking , Sunak is the best qualified.

That isn't going to happen. The next 2 years are going to be brutal. Not Champagne Charlie material.

So it's Penny Twaw. She's a decent old stick in some ways.

But this frees you to Vote Labour.

My MP has stated he is backing Boris Johnson. I could vomit with anger. I knew he was a self serving prick but this is new depths. I can’t wait until he gets thrown out on his ear at the next GE.