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I think the tories will lose

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ethanrayne · 31/05/2017 21:27

I actually thought they would win, and there was nothing anyone could do. Now I think they will lose.

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PollyPerky · 01/06/2017 08:14

People who want Corbyn (and Abbott as Home Secretary? Gawd, get real please) are being hoodwinked.

We ALL want what he promises- more money for EVERYTHING! Yay -bring it on!!!!

Just one question- where is the money coming from?

If you tax the tiny number of super rich you end up with LESS tax. See the research. They find ways to avoid tax or they work less hard.

If you increase corporation tax, do you think Nissan, and other companies currently employing people in the NE will stay here and continue to invest in the UK? No.

The only way to give people all they want is a sound economy. Nothing, just nothing,, is possible without it.

You are completely deluded if you think labour can run the economy by using their Robin Hood approach.

And don't be fooled by their 'principles' - the unions who pay for their campaigns are far far more dictatorial, corrupt and intent on feathering the nests of their leaders than the 'nasty' Tories. Have you looked at the salaries and perks of the leaders of these unions? Don't kid yourselves they care about the 'little people' aka the Workers.

Ankleswingers · 01/06/2017 08:16

Very well said PollyPerky

annandale · 01/06/2017 08:18

There will be a Conservative majority, possibly at the lower end of some of the recent predictions but still fairly comfortable.

The gilt has thoroughly come off the May gingerbread during this awful campaign, and also UKIP have been assimilated, so the headbanger tendency in her own party will be emboldened and liberated to make as much trouble as possible.

PollyPerky · 01/06/2017 08:19

Can you imagine the terror threat to the UK if Diane Can't add up Abbott was in charge of it all? And her side kick John who can't admit openly he wants to get rid of MI5? But we know that's what he wants.

Are you even aware of what these people are saying?
Are you so influenced by the mantra of 'more money for everything' that you fail to see what is behind it all?

How Corbyn said - about a year ago- that he'd want to invite ISIS to have a cup of tea with him to talk about peace and less 'terror'? They ought to be sectioned, the lot of them, not thinking about running the country.

FGS wake up!

thinkiamgoingcrazy · 01/06/2017 08:23

Wake up and vote Tory. No thanks. Liars, incompetent, heartless and self-serving.

Lib Dem for me.

saoirse31 · 01/06/2017 08:25

I think Tories will get majority, hope not tho.

Think May has done them serious damage in a few ways:

  • carers issue
  • her own performances on campaign so far
  • her failure to take part in debate.

Think the failure to take part in debate is really poor. She's portraying herself as the only person to lead brexit negotiations but is afraid she'll perform poorly in a debate with the other party leaders in her own country?

Think she's either making v poor decisions herself or being v badly advised.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 01/06/2017 08:26

Liars, incompetent, heartless and self-serving.

I think that applies to all parties to be honest.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 01/06/2017 08:27

CCHQ do start early though I'll give them that, allthough guess they didnt go out and celebrate much last night think that was left to the others who actually won the leadership debate

It's nice though as Corbyn goes up in the polls the frothing from CCHQ gets louder its a beautiful thing to watch

Moussemoose · 01/06/2017 08:30

How Corbyn said - about a year ago- that he'd want to invite ISIS to have a cup of tea with him to talk about peace and less 'terror'? They ought to be sectioned, the lot of them, not thinking about running the country

ALL major terror groups end up negotiating - to believe otherwise is to indulge in the naivete you accuse others of.

I am no fan of Diane Abbot but let's just look at Boris imperialist , sexist, twat Johnson. Both sides, all sides have their fair share of imbeciles.

makeourfuture · 01/06/2017 08:30

New economic figures are awful.

Debt up. Inflation up. Growth nonexistent.

No plan.

SemiNormal · 01/06/2017 08:32

CCHQ do start early though I'll give them that, allthough guess they didnt go out and celebrate much last night think that was left to the others who actually won the leadership debate

It's nice though as Corbyn goes up in the polls the frothing from CCHQ gets louder its a beautiful thing to watch

How very sneery of you. As far as I can tell there have only been one or two people state they will be voting Tory, are you assuming the rest?

Headofthehive55 · 01/06/2017 08:33

We all want the goodies that jc promises.
However I don't think he will run the economy well enough to pay for them.
It's just not realistic.
We will al have to pay more taxes for the things we want not just a few.

Sittinonthefloor · 01/06/2017 08:33

Negotaiate with ISIS? And say what exactly? They are in a bit of a different league to domestic terrorist groups.

Headofthehive55 · 01/06/2017 08:38

If you think inflation is awful, remember the 1970s....
Trouble is a lot of young people can't remember the high inflation high unemployment era of labours reign. Never mind about fretting about a zero hours contract you would be desparate for anything. Nowadays I wander round town and there are lots of posters advertising work - that was unheard of in my youth.
In fact the news used to do a rolling count weekly of jobs lost - unheard of today.

Moussemoose · 01/06/2017 08:39

Sittinonthefloor I don't know what to say I am not a trained negotiator. The point being Corbyn is discussing uncomfortable truths. ALL terrorist groups end up negotiating, and when I say all I am not referring to domestic terror groups - I didn't say or imply that. Think PLO.

sysysysref · 01/06/2017 08:40

I really hope the conservatives win and we can get a decent proper Labour Party free from JC and his crew.

sharklovers · 01/06/2017 08:40

I'm not a shy Tory I'm a loud, proud Tory

Same here. I'd be ashamed to be a Labour voter though, why would I want to align myself with the absolute dregs of society? The Tories will win, I think we'll find that most people don't want to live in some kind of 1970s socialist shit hole.

Headofthehive55 · 01/06/2017 08:42

Inflation today 2.3%
Inflation in the 1970s (similar economic ideas to jc) 20%

Vango · 01/06/2017 08:43

why would I want to align myself with the absolute dregs of society?

Gobsmacked.

Orlantina · 01/06/2017 08:43

Trouble is a lot of young people can't remember the high inflation high unemployment era of labours reign

Do you remember 1997 - 2010?

Pretty certain Labour was in power then?

Sittinonthefloor · 01/06/2017 08:43

The PLO wanted to be free from Israeli occupation. Daesh / Isis want to create an Islamic state that's as big as they can. They think the whole of western culture is 'wrong' and are a death cult that want to kill us. Not sure a cup of tea is going to help.

PuckeredAhole · 01/06/2017 08:44

The beautiful silent majority... shhhhh

Sionella · 01/06/2017 08:44

People have forgotten what a real labour government means.

Moussemoose · 01/06/2017 08:45

Headofthehive55 the high inflation of the 70s was as much Labours fault as the more recent global financial crisis. Politicians take credit or blame for what are often global issues.
I have some knowledge of the 70s and know it was a time of significantly better social mobility, the gap between the richest and the poorest was less and there was more job security. But you can pick any facts to make a point. Referring to a party's track record of 50 years ago does not have much relevance to next weeks election.

citroenpresse · 01/06/2017 08:47

Worried about 'competence' head of the hive? We are in the Brexit mess because of the Tories. Their inability to run the economy is right in front of us...their aggressive empty posturing about Brexit 'deals' is utterly hopeless. What on earth is more 'realistic' about them?