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Trump (Part 5)

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claig · 13/12/2016 08:22

Continuation of the discussion on all things Trump and the people's revolutions

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DeepanKrispanEven · 14/12/2016 14:04

claig, you haven't answered the question when you stopped saying "Merry Christmas"?

claig · 14/12/2016 14:32

I never stopped saying "Merry Christmas". I am not politically correct and no Blairite will ever take my free speech. I am glad that Trump has said "we all all be saying Merry Christmas again" soon.

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claig · 14/12/2016 14:37

Trump has defeated the politically correct teams. Go Trump.

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Lweji · 14/12/2016 15:05

Did you happen to notice that Trump used to be politically correct?
It's a relatively recent interest of him to say Merry Christmas, it seems.

Inkanta · 14/12/2016 15:08

"Beijing has warned the incoming US administration that any attempt to challenge the "One China" policy could affect peace in the Taiwan Strait.
Interference may"

Trump has really rattled China! Doesn't take much to rattle them. They have been used to calling the shots it seems.

Inkanta · 14/12/2016 15:11

Good for Trump - "Merry Christmas" it is!

Xmas Grin
DeepanKrispanEven · 14/12/2016 15:46

I never stopped saying "Merry Christmas"

That's the point, really. Trump is trying to make some sort of political point about allowing people to say "Merry Christmas" again when the reality is that there was never any reason why they shouldn't, even in the US. And it's not as if Trump himself is innocent of going for the "Happy Holidays" option.

squishysquirmy · 14/12/2016 16:07

I never stopped saying "Merry Christmas"

Me neither. I don't know of anyone who did, although some people may have used Happy holidays as well, or maybe used it because they personally preferred it. The idea that we were ever prevented from saying "Merry Christmas" is a ridiculous urban myth like the whole "winter festival" thing. My local city has a "winter festival" which lasts from Fireworks night through to New Years Eve - it was never meant to replace Christmas, and there are plenty of references to Christmas (including the words "Merry Christmas" emblazoned in fairly lights every year). But some people would seize upon this as an example of political correctness gorn mad. Twats will be twats I guess.

claig · 14/12/2016 16:11

'Me neither. I don't know of anyone who did'

Officialdom, the "teams", the puppets, the ones Trump defeated for the sake of the people.

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squishysquirmy · 14/12/2016 16:13

What about "Happy Christmas"? (sorry Claig, I know this may put you off your tea)

squishysquirmy · 14/12/2016 16:15

This ones less objectionable:
"Merry Christmas everybody!"

Lweji · 14/12/2016 16:16

Officialdom, the "teams", the puppets, the ones Trump defeated for the sake of the people.

And... ... Trump.

squishysquirmy · 14/12/2016 16:21

There's nothing wrong with the phrase "Happy Holidays" Claig. People should be free to use what they like. And they have been.

claig · 14/12/2016 16:21

Trump defeated the "teams" for the sake of all of us worldwide. He has defeated political correctness and the elite are now up shit's creek without a paddle. They can't control the people any more because Trump defeated their political correctness

"Bernie Sanders: Donald Trump Won Because People Are Tired of Political Correctness

"I think he said some outrageous and painful things, but I think people are tired of the same old politically correct rhetoric."

Sen. Bernie Sanders understands something that mainstream liberals do not: Donald Trump won the presidency in part because he channeled populist resentment toward political correctness into a winning issue.

During a fascinating and free-wheeling town hall-style event on Chris Hayes' show on MSNBC Monday night, Sanders was explicit: Trump's criticisms of political correctness spoke to the American people's legitimate fury toward a political class and media regime that is overly-scripted and beholden to the powerful.

"[Trump] said he will not be politically correct," said Sanders. "I think he said some outrageous and painful things, but I think people are tired of the same old politically correct rhetoric. I think some people believe he was speaking from his heart and willing to take on everybody."

Hayes then asked what political correctness means to Sanders. He responded:

"What it means is you have a set of talking points which have been poll-tested and focus-group-tested and that's what you say rather than what's really going on. And often what you are not allowed to say are things which offend very powerful people. For years and years we have been told by Republicans and many Democrats that our trade policy was a great idea, that it was working for America. The American people don't believe it. The American people I think want candidates and politicians to have the guts to stand up to the billionaire class and start representing the middle class and working families of America. I don't think it's more complicated than that."

Hayes then challenged Sanders' contention that political correctness has anything to do with trade policy. Instead, Hayes suggested that political correctness was more about not offending people for identity-based reasons.

"[Trump] was going after these consensus things but he was always saying things frankly that when we talk about political correctness are basically just rules about not being a jerk," said Hayes. "He's violating taboos that a lot of people think we should keep."

But Sanders hit back. "He was talking about the media," said Sanders. "Do people here think the media reflects the reality of American society?"

The audience, needless to say, was none too pleased with the media.

"One of the arguments as to why Trump won," Sanders continued, "is the belief that most or many of his supporters are sexists or racists or homophobes. I happen not to believe that's the case. I think what he did do is he said, 'You know what, there's a lot of pain in this country, people are scared and people are worried.' People are tired of status quo politics. He broke through that."

Another round of Democratic Party operatives and pro-Clinton hacks will probably label Sanders a white supremacist for making these comments. And that's why they lost."

reason.com/blog/2016/12/13/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-won-because

Trump liberated the people. The BBC, the "teams" and the political class and elites are desperate. They have lost control over and the respect of the people. Trump mocked the lot of them and the people laughed at the emperor with no clothes, the elites and ther teams.

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squishysquirmy · 14/12/2016 16:28

rationalwiki.org/wiki/War_on_Christmas

Speaking of Christmas, do you know what we should be really outraged about? Pregnant teenagers from the middle East travelling to already over-crowded cities to give birth, and the namby pamby politically correct landlords who allow the scroungers to stay in their outbuildings! Coming over here, taking our mangers....

claig · 14/12/2016 16:34

'and that's what you say rather than what's really going on. And often what you are not allowed to say are things which offend very powerful people. For years and years we have been told by Republicans and many Democrats that our trade policy was a great idea, that it was working for America. The American people don't believe it. The American people I think want candidates and politicians to have the guts to stand up to the billionaire class and start representing the middle class and working families of America. I don't think it's more complicated than that."'

Political correctness is how the elites conceal the truth and how their media teams spin the Blairite lies we are all used to and all sick of. That is why Trump said to CNN's Anderson Cooper

"the people don't believe you. They don't believe the media"

Trump was the only one who said what the people are really all thinking and saying - that the media is "a room full of liars". They are all puppets and too scared to deviate from what they have been told is "politically correct". Only Trump had the courage to defy and face down the whole lot of liars - about Syria, about Russia, about free trade, about jobs, about political correctness etc etc

Every night you still see the liars on TV spinning about Syria when we all know it is not true, when Trump told the world it is not true and yet they still all lie and spin because that is what they do, but the people now know they are "a room full of liars" and political correctness is what prevents the truth comng out.

Trump has driven a coach and horses through their political correctness and has dared to tell the truth and that is why he won, because he liberated the people from the lies and spin of the elites.

" I think some people believe he was speaking from his heart and willing to take on everybody."

"The American people don't believe it. The American people I think want candidates and politicians to have the guts to stand up to the billionaire class and start representing the middle class and working families of America. I don't think it's more complicated than that."

The guts to tell the truth. That is why Trump thrashed all of their teams, because they are liars and he dared to call them that.

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squishysquirmy · 14/12/2016 16:35

A Trump presidency will be like getting a lift home from a steaming drunk driver who speeds, turns his headlights off, swerves into oncoming traffic, and keeps taking his eyes off the road to send angry tweets. Yeah, we might get to our destination unscathed, but it's going to be a scary journey.

squishysquirmy · 14/12/2016 16:38

"The American people I think want candidates and politicians to have the guts to stand up to the billionaire class..."
Stand up to them how? By slashing their tax, cutting the rights of their work-forces and promoting a number of them to cabinet?

claig · 14/12/2016 16:44

'Stand up to them how?'

Above all by telling teh truth, ending the lies and spin and deceit of teh teams of servnats beholden to billionaires and lobbyists and politicl correctness, just like Bernie Sanders understands.

'you are not allowed to say are things which offend very powerful people'

The truth offends these liars and their Blairite poliicies.

Once the lies are defeated and the truth can dare to be told, then the wars can end, the scams can end, the cons can end, and people's jobs can be returned as democracy and sovereignty is returned and the globalist liars are called out for the deceivers they always were.

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claig · 14/12/2016 16:48

As Orwell wrote

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

It is the truth that will defeat the Blairites and the teams of liars, it is the truth that will beat the media teams who serve the elites by lying to the people in as Trump called them their "rooms full of liars".

It is very easy to end all the crap, all you have to do is tell the truth and defy their political correctness. That is what Trump did and that is why he won and why he says "Merry Christsmas" to let the people know that he won and they are now free to say whatever the hell they like again.

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squishysquirmy · 14/12/2016 17:00

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

And the truth is that:
"the people" were always free to say Merry Christmas.
Trump is a liar.

claig · 14/12/2016 17:05

'"the people" were always free to say Merry Christmas.
Trump is a liar.'

You obviously don't feel what millions of people feel. Trump only says things that resonate with the people. They don't follow him, he follows and listens to the people. Everybody knows the hidden intent rather than the literal intent of the elites and their retinues of servants - over the EU, over Libya, over Iraq, over Syria, over jobs, over healthcare etc.

What they say literally is lies and spin, it is what they hide that made the people vote for Brexit against all their teams and bigwigs.

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squishysquirmy · 14/12/2016 17:30

You're spinning so fast you could generate enough electricity to power New York's Christmas lights Claig.

Lweji · 14/12/2016 17:35

:)

I was going to ask if you had got stuck in yet another spin cycle, claig.

Lweji · 14/12/2016 17:40

Trump only says things that resonate with the people. They don't follow him, he follows and listens to the people.

So, he has no opinions and he's a follower rather than a leader?

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