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Trump (Part 5)

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claig · 13/12/2016 08:22

Continuation of the discussion on all things Trump and the people's revolutions

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SouthallGirl · 15/12/2016 21:52

Which quarter were you hoping for? Punishing women for having abortions? Banning Muslims from the country? Building a wall and making Mexicans pay for it?

Which one do you favour, Kaija?

There's no point in scoffing about the serious criminality of the Mexican gangs. They are a definite presence in TX and CA. There are other nationa,ity drug and sex traffickers, of course, but in that neck of the woods (CA, AZ, NM and TX) they are the main problem. What's the point of your sarcasm, when people are being killed and mutiliated by them?

A wall is feasible, I suppose, because that south-western tip of the USA is narrow. The Mexican smugglers could access USA via the Gulf of Mexico, but USA has good coastguard patrol.

So why so snidey about protecting that border? You lock your house at night, dont you?

Kaija · 15/12/2016 21:52

"Why are they crying and having breakdowns? Simple. For too long we have lived in 'everyone gets a trophy' land"

This is an extremely interesting contrast to the "left behind" narrative. So the problem to which Trump is (apparently) the solution is not rising inequality leaving the working classes poor and underemployed, but quite the opposite: "everyone gets a trophy". So in fact you're hoping for greater inequality?

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 15/12/2016 21:53

Fuck me!!

Must remove all signs of loving my country, that telephone box christmas ornament is coming straight off the tree for a start

So i have to like an american plonker and that makes me a GB lover....as long as i understand the rules

Can i dislike Putin?

Kaija · 15/12/2016 21:55

Try us missswatch. Just say what you want to say. I know it can't be anything too awful because all the Trumpers on here have been beyond outraged by any suggestion that any of Trump's supporters are racist or fascist. So what can it be?

Lweji · 15/12/2016 21:55

South, the border is already protected and everyone knows many immigrants, including gang members don't cross the land border.
They can use planes and boats and even tunnels.
The wall is just a symbol. It won't have a practical effect, apart from being a huge expense.

Kaija · 15/12/2016 21:55

"Which one do you favour, Kaija?"

Obviously none of them. What about you?

Missswatch · 15/12/2016 21:56

I'm hoping Kaija people get a thicker skin and stop being coddled all the time

Lweji · 15/12/2016 21:56

Can i dislike Putin?
No!
Don't be blasphemous. Putin is to be loooved.

Kaija · 15/12/2016 21:57

Can i dislike Putin?

Inadvisable, Rufus

SouthallGirl · 15/12/2016 21:58

you're diverting with autism and MMR now?

I was not the first to mention it. One of you included it in connection with Trump, around p.8.

It's been discredited in the mainstream, but it is still an issue with those parents who saw a change in their child hours after the MMR. Including de Niro, who is anti-Trump.

DixieWishbone · 15/12/2016 21:58

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Missswatch · 15/12/2016 21:58

Try us missswatch. Just say what you want to say. I know it can't be anything too awful because all the Trumpers on here have been beyond outraged by any suggestion that any of Trump's supporters are racist or fascist. So what can it be?

Not falling for that one I'm afraid. Like I said I have seen posters banned for 'triggering' people

Kaija · 15/12/2016 21:59

Which people need a thicker skin, missswatch? All of them? The ones who feel left behind? What hardships do you recommend they experience to toughen them up?

Kaija · 15/12/2016 22:00

"Not falling for that one I'm afraid. Like I said I have seen posters banned for 'triggering' people"

Well then we can only imagine the worst.

Missswatch · 15/12/2016 22:01

Imagine away. You aren't the only person who reads these threads even if your skin is 1mm thicker than the rest

Roussette · 15/12/2016 22:02

So you want MNHQ to change how they operate and moderate this site then Misss. Will the Trump effect manage that?

And I'm eagerly awaiting your reply to Dixie's post

claig · 15/12/2016 22:03

"Una revolución (del latín revolutio, "una vuelta") es un cambio social fundamental en la estructura de poder o la organización que toma lugar en un periodo ..." etc etc

I think that sums it up and Blair probably doesn't "understand" that either because Romanian was never one of his strong subjects.

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SouthallGirl · 15/12/2016 22:04

the border is already protected and everyone knows many immigrants, including gang members don't cross the land border

Not enough border patrol. The men & women that are brought into USA by Mexican gangs for slave work are transported by vehicle and dropped off close to the border, and then walked across at various points where patrol has not yet visited or is known to be lax.

Ontopofthesunset · 15/12/2016 22:06

Now I really don't get your Romanian joke, claig.

Missswatch · 15/12/2016 22:07

Not necessarily Rousette. Private platform and all. I don't share Claig's optimism unfortunately but I am hoping with Trump elected people will speak more freely and with any luck fewer people offended. If this creates a cultural shift then good

claig · 15/12/2016 22:08

'Now I really don't get your Romanian joke, claig.'

My sense of humour, quoting Spanish for effect and then bursting the effect by getting it wrong and calling it Romanian, self-deprectating British humour.

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Kaija · 15/12/2016 22:08

What would you like to see MN change?

Ontopofthesunset · 15/12/2016 22:08

Google Translate is never very accurate but gives me this for the Romanian:
"
O revoluție (din revolutio latină," o întoarcere ") este o schimbare socială fundamentală în structura de putere sau organizație care are loc într-o perioadă"

Why should Tony be strong on Romanian?

Kaija · 15/12/2016 22:09

" am hoping with Trump elected people will speak more freely and with any luck fewer people offended"

Speak more freely about what?

Lweji · 15/12/2016 22:10

I have to correct my previous post. It seems Trump never intended to drain the swamp. His own words.
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