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Clinton V Trump - into the final three weeks.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 23/10/2016 16:51

new thread. :)

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WinchesterWoman · 28/10/2016 12:52

Hi claig nook and Michelle begging people not to be complacent

claig · 28/10/2016 12:56

Absolutely, WinchesterWoman, Mook and Michelle are desperate to get the voters out because they know Hillary does not enthuse Democrats. Trump fans, on the other hand, are ready to go.

claig · 28/10/2016 13:04

"Trump will win the election and is more popular than Obama in 2008, AI system finds

An artificial intelligence (AI) system that correctly predicted the last three U.S. presidential elections puts Republican nominee Donald Trump ahead of Democrat rival Hillary Clinton in the race to the White House."

www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-will-win-the-election-and-is-more-popular-than-obama-in-2008-ai-system-finds.html

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Elites in panic. Reports that their twitter messages to themselves contain phrases such as "the game's up", "we're done for".

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 28/10/2016 13:19

Oh claig

Some of your posts sound so rational and i think they are interesting and then you post this

Reports that their twitter messages to themselves contain phrases such as "the game's up", "we're done for"

claig · 28/10/2016 13:21

It's a joke. You have to laugh at the elites. Wait until Trump gets in. Smile

LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 28/10/2016 13:24

Claig interesting that the Clinton camp keeps warning against complacency.

What? Every politician with half a brain sends out this sort of warning before elections when they are leading in the polls. It's not "interesting", it's plain common sense.

LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 28/10/2016 13:26

Of course he did, because he is known for telling the truth

Claig, do at least try to keep it consistent. You've acknowledged several times that Trump doesn't tell the truth. It's just that you try to pass it off as "only joking".

Lweji · 28/10/2016 13:57

But Trump wants to deport every single illegal immigrant.

And Trump had accused Obama of being lenient.
“If people around the world believe they can just come on a temporary visa and never, ever leave — the Obama-Clinton policy, that's what it is — then we have a completely open border, and we no longer have a country,”

It turned out that he hasn't been. What is it, then?

As with most things Trump, not only what he said initially wasn't true, but he is now twisting it.

Trump is the one accusing Democrats of wanting open borders, the Democrats have always stood for reasonable control. Hillary has too, in actions and in words during the debate (notwhistanding one (1) speech to a particular audience)
Just not over the top as Republicans and Trump want.
It's not hypocrisy, unless you mean by Trump.

As for the Artificial Intelligence news, you seem to have conveniently missed a bit from the report:

"But the entrepreneur admitted that there were limitations to the data in that sentiment around social media posts is difficult for the system to analyze. Just because somebody engages with a Trump tweet, it doesn't mean that they support him. Also there are currently more people on social media than there were in the three previous presidential elections."

and
"If Trump loses, it will defy the data trend for the first time in the last 12 years since Internet engagement began in full earnest,"
Well, most polls are correct, but sometimes they fail. So can this one.

claig · 28/10/2016 13:59

'What is it, then?'

As usual, it is both. That is why ICE, the border security force, has endorsed Trump.

Lweji · 28/10/2016 14:00

It's a joke.

Based on her constant use of "jokes", I think it's fair to say that's probably how most (all?) claig's posts should be treated.

Lweji · 28/10/2016 14:01

As usual, it is both.

So, Obama is free for all borders and too strict?

(see my previous post)

claig · 28/10/2016 14:10

Obama is not for open bordrs, he has deported millions of illegal immigrants, but he is not tough enough and allows sanctuary cities etc and the border security force has for the first time ever endorsed someone and that is Trump.

"Open borders" is Hillary's dream which makes sense because it is the elite's dream and Trump said that "Hillary Clinton is a vessel for the corrupt global establishment that is raiding our country".

Lweji · 28/10/2016 14:14

So, he's deported more illegal immigrants than ever before (also maybe because there were many more than before), and he's too lenient?
Really?

And, again, Hillary has not voted for open borders. She used that sentence on one speech to foreign investors. It's called diplomacy and, dare I say it, the art of making a deal. :)

claig · 28/10/2016 14:19

'Really?'

Yes. ICE has for the first time ever endorsed a Presidential candidate and that is Donald J Trump because he will sort things out (as well as obviously sorting the crooked elite out).

'It's called diplomacy'

It's called hypocrisy, what she said about needing to have a different private and public face. She is in favour of amnesty etc. She can't tell the people what she really wants to do or no one would vote for her apart from the elite. Trump calls her "Crooked", he doesn't call her "Stupid".

Lweji · 28/10/2016 14:23

It's called hypocrisy, what she said about needing to have a different private and public face.

So, what do you call bragging about groping women, actually groping women and saying nobody respects women more?
Being for the Iraq war, then saying he wasn't?
Being pro-choice, then being against-choice?

Hillary has been in the Senate for years. She could have pushed for more open borders. She used the word dream. Not intention in the short term.
Grasping straws.

claig · 28/10/2016 14:26

' She used the word dream. '

Of course she did, because she knows full well that that is the elite's dream and sucking up to them is her forte. Trump opposes them which is why they all back Hillary and are terrified of Trump, which is why nearly all the media and the BBC and Channel 4 and the rest of the Oxbridge teams are all against Trump.

LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 28/10/2016 14:27

Any chance of you answering Lweji's very valid questions about the hypocrisy issue, claig?

claig · 28/10/2016 14:29

'Any chance of you answering Lweji's very valid questions about the hypocrisy issue'

Trump is inconsistent, he changes his positions and will probably do so again. First he was for allowing Syrian refugees into the States, then he learned that they couldn't be properly vetted and he changed his mind.

Lweji · 28/10/2016 14:38

Trump is inconsistent

Not a hypocrite? Grin

claig · 28/10/2016 14:40

I have not heard anyone refer to him as such

Lweji · 28/10/2016 14:40

First he was for allowing Syrian refugees into the States, then he learned that they couldn't be properly vetted and he changed his mind.

I wonder who vetted Melania Trump. She could be a Russian sleeper agent.

Lweji · 28/10/2016 14:41

I have not heard anyone refer to him as such

Oh, claig. Can you only build thoughts according to what people have said?

Bitofacow · 28/10/2016 15:45

Trump is a hypocrite.

"I have not heard anyone refer to him as such"

There you go. Answer the question.

Lweji · 28/10/2016 15:52

On a side note, Podesta is not particularly password security smart:

www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2016/10/21/how-john-podestas-emails-were-hacked-and-how-to-prevent-it-from-happening-to-you/#64a1d6a55c02

You should never click on any link given in an email to recover your password!
Always go to the original site, via an independent source, if you think it might be true. The same for banking passwords.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 28/10/2016 17:12

claig

IF Trump doesnt get in will you be very upset?

And i know you think he will and he is going to trounce the elite etc

But just pretend, will you honestly be upset?

Or just chalk it up to life, conspiracy or the like

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