Trump vs Clinton Round 3. Probably the biggest debate ever.

[claig]

Oct 20th 2 am UK time.

Last chance for the Establishment to stop the Trump surge in the polls.
World leaders will be watching, Establishments will be tuning in on the edge of their seats in trepidation.

People will be laughing, diving into the popcorn and knocking back the alcohol.

Round 3. Rock'n'roll.

There could be so many reasons

He is a fuckwit

He thinks putin is a ok

He is a fuckwit

He thinks that the intelligence is fake to catch him out

He is a fuckwit

He thinks he is cleverer than anyone else

He is a fuckwit

Problems with russia dont fit it with his narrative

He is a fuckwit

I think i covered it

I still think that my first explanation makes most sense

Although i am liking my fuckwit explanation more and more

The refugees & immigrants into USA between 1850 to 1950 were from various parts of Europe: Russia, Scandinavia, Ireland, Germany, Poland, etc and there was no culture shock

Left out the slaves.
& Native Americans.
Those 2 intermarried a lot, actually.
An awful lot of Chinese (railways).
The Japanese who inconveniently got interred for WWII.
Then there were the Latinos in the invaded territories snatched off of Mexico.
The pesky Cajuns, Puerto Ricans, Hawaians...
The Irish & Poles & Italians got badly bashed by other European cultures. Has no one read The Jungle? An Irish Catholic being president was revolutionary in 1960.

Former NY mayor Giuliani called Trump a genius for avoiding tax all those years

A genius to lose a billion dollars of other people's money in the casino business and then use the tax deduction to avoid paying personal taxes for the next 5 years ?

How is that being on the side of ordinary people ?
Trump is just like any other sleazy billionaire in the "elite."

Ordinary Americans will continue to struggle as long as the "elite" like Trump avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

The real aim of Republicans is always to make the rich even richer.
They deliberately distract voters with claims that America is under threat from black & brown people.
So Americans don't notice who is REALLY screwing them.

'They deliberately distract voters with claims that America is under threat from black & brown people. '

Dr Ben Carson, candidate for Republican Presidential nominee, is black and is a top Trump advisor. The Democrats do not have anyone as senior as him advising them.

Dr Alveda King, the niece of Martin Luther King Jr, is black and has endorsed Trump.

Katrina Pierson, Trump's campaign spokeswoman, is black.

Don't try to pretend that the Republicans are against black people. It was the KU Klux Klan Grand Cyclops, Senator Byrd, who was Hillary Clinton's "mentor" according to her.

'So Americans don't notice who is REALLY screwing them.'

Of course they know. Bernie voters know, Jill Stein and the Greens know and Trump fans know that it is the banking elite and globalists who back Hillary who are screwing them.

'So Americans don't notice who is REALLY screwing them.''

Trump says that it is the media and Establishment who are trying to "rig" the election and desperately want him to stand down. He has said nothing against black people. He wants to improve their lives as he wanst to improve all Americans lives, unlike the Democrats who he says only appear every four years to ask for their votes and then do nothing for them.

Here is Don King explaining why he supports Trump over the Establishment. He says "We the People". "We the people always win. Only in America, The greatest nation in the world."

Think I'd better just leave this out again.

What Mike Tyson said about Don King: (King is) a wretched, slimy, reptilian motherfucker. This is supposed to be my 'black brother', right? He's just a bad man, a real bad man. He would kill his own mother for a dollar. He's ruthless, he's deplorable, he's greedy ... and he doesn't know how to love anybody.

Claig- Apologies. I've just done a Donald. You were correct regarding your original final debate date in the UK: 20th of October at 2am.

'You were correct regarding your original final debate date in the UK: 20th of October at 2am.'

Great, for a moment I thought the Establishment had tried to trick the people and give us the wrong date so that we would miss Trump defeating the Establishment's candidate in Round 3.

Roger Stone, a friend of Trump, says he thinks Trump should now go for a "scorched earth" strategy in the debate. Don't miss it! It will be electric!

We the People against the Establishment.

Rock'n'roll

'What Mike Tyson said about Don King: (King is) a wretched, slimy, reptilian motherfucker. This is supposed to be my 'black brother', right? He's just a bad man, a real bad man. He would kill his own mother for a dollar. He's ruthless, he's deplorable, he's greedy ... and he doesn't know how to love anybody.'

OK, but what did Mike Tyson say about Hillary?

Mike Tyson supports Trump, too.

We the people.

Have you listened to what Trump voters think about African Americans ?
Read the typical comments on Republican sites ?

When Democratic President Johnson brought in the Civil Rights Act, that marked the turning point of the most extraordinary changeover from Republicans freeing the slaves to becoming the party whose defining characteristic is favouring whites and keeping down the former slaves.

Yes, there are a tiny % of African Americans who put economics before Civil Rights of their own people.
About 99% AAs who vote will choose Clinton - this is why some Trump supporters plan to go to the outer legal limits to intimidate them at the polling stations - encouraged by Trump.

The GOP tried organised intimidation before and the Democrats sued them. This could break the legal agreement the 2 parties had:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/13/how-donald-trumps-bizarre-voter-watch-effort-could-get-the-gop-in-trouble/

"The RNC also allegedly enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs and police officers to intimidate voters by standing at polling places in minority precincts during voting with “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands. Some of the officers allegedly wore firearms in a visible manner."

After all the kerfuffle and ego-wanking, this was probablyTrump's original aim:
turning voters into viewers and a very lucrative TV media empire:

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tv-ventureus5804d13fe4b0e8c198a8f3cb?

His run is all about the money.
His ego just got out of control and he started to believe he could be President.

Can anybody be bothered to count up the names Claig has mentioned and work out what percentage of the total African American population of the US they represent?

'Have you listened to what Trump voters think about African Americans ?'

Of course I have, I listen to everything the African American Stump for Trump Sisters say, as do other Trump fans because they are a Trump fan favourite.

'Read the typical comments on Republican sites ?'

That must be Establishment operatives working undercover because everybody loves the Stump for Trump Sisters, Don King, Dr Ben Carson, Dr Alveda King, "999" Herman Cain and the absolutely brilliant black Sheriff, David Clarke.

'When Democratic President Johnson brought in the Civil Rights Act'

From what I have heard, it was passed due to Republican votes and many Democrats were against it, just like Senator Robert Byrd, Ku Klux Klan Grand Cyclops, and "mentor" to Hillary Clinton, was.

'this is why some Trump supporters plan to go to the outer legal limits to intimidate them at the polling stations - encouraged by Trump.'

Oh give over. You will be surprised by ho many black voters turn out for Trump. They aren't fooled by Hillary and Wall Street who want "open borders" so that their jobs are shipped abroad.

'The RNC also allegedly enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs'

Allegedly. Why weren't they all sued and sacked if that was true?

I just need to point out that none of the federal funding that Planned Parenthood receives at the moment goes towards abortion. Not a single goddamn penny.
I have a friend who is a nurse for Planned Parenthood in Pennsylvania. The majority of her work is providing maternity care for low income families.
It really gets my fucking goat when people harp on about the access to abortions that Planned Parenthood provides, when it is actually one small element of what they do. And a needed element at that.

Repetition, repetition, repetition.

Here's that voting map again

'Here's that voting map again'

Repetition

Yes, many Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act and many Republicans voted for it.
That's why it became a turning point:
within a few years, Nixon with his "Southern Strategy" was able to take that whole chunk of Southern Democratic votes, the scum of the Democrats, into the Republican party.
Those scum poisoned the Republican party and it's only got sicker.

As the Republicans have pandered to their racist right wing, African Americans have turned overwhelmingly to the Democrats - averaging 88% since 1980 and reaching 93% with Obama.
So the Republicans regard them as even more of an enemy... a vicious spiral.

No other group votes anywhere near so overwhelmingly for one political party

Are you really asking why cops wouldn't get sacked for intimidation ? They don't even get sacked for murder of unarmed people.

Abortion is only ever illegal for poor women.
Anyone with money can fly to a comfy clinic in another state

In entire countries where abortion is illegal, they just fly to say Switzerland or London e.g. where Irish conservative politicians have sent their pregnant mistresses.

'Those scum poisoned the Republican party and it's only got sicker.'

Have you forgotten about Condoleeza Rice? The Democrats were the Southern Ku Klux Klan party historically, the Republicans were the party of Abraham Lincoln who opposed the Southern landowners.

'African Americans have turned overwhelmingly to the Democrats - averaging 88% since 1980 and reaching 93% with Obama.'

Not this time. They won't be fooled again. That is why the Stump for Trump Sisters, who used to be registered Democrats, have "ditched and switched" and are voting for Donald Trump. There will be many like them who won't turn out for Wall Street Hillary and will vote for Trump instead, despite the lies of the corporate media.

'No other group votes anywhere near so overwhelmingly for one political party '

Young black voters are not keen on Hillary, they won't turn out for her in large numbers. The black barber shown on the BBC Newsnight report on Youngstown Ohio has switched from Obama to Trump.

'Are you really asking why cops wouldn't get sacked for intimidation ? '

Cops are taken to court for wrongdoing and if they had interfered with an election by intimidating voters then a Democratic government under Obama would have prosecuted them.

Yes Claig, repetition. It seems to work so well for you.

So what do you think the map tells us? Here it is again in case you missed it:

And the women who can't afford it end up dying from having abortions performed be unqualified butchers.
I do think in a lot of ways, the USA has a long way to go before it could actually be defined as 'civilized'.
Looking at the way medical insurance companies operate over there makes me feel sick.
The whole communities that have ended up poisoned as a consequence of the way manufacturing corporations and mining corporations have operated.
The devastation that has been caused to the natural environment by the same entities.
The fact that they get away with it.
Trump won't change that. He is as greasy as the rest of them.