Excited about the Labour leadership announcement

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For full disclosure I'm a Jeremy Corbyn supporter. I'm quite excited and hopeful that he's won again. Anyone else feeling it?!

Apparently Theresa May has just ordered this wallpaper for her bedroom at no. 10.

Jeremy Corbyn gives me the creeps. As does those that support him, not so much the women, but the men - I'm talking about my local party membership. They are sexist bullies. And talk you down, never give you a chance to speak and they all love JC and want to see a labour that supports the workers of the UK. THE WORKERS. Yet they despise big business. They despise women getting rights. Absolutely despise this.

Oh and THE WORKERS mean men. That much is very obvious.

*Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g Completely agree.

Plus I agree with GaspOdeTheWOnderDOg

I was not pro Thatcher. I am not a conspiracy theorist. Momentum, UKIP, Brexit and Trump terrify me because they are signs that significant numbers of people are not capable of being open-minded and logical. The bigots and zealots are on the rise and this is not a positive thing.

I reckon you're spot on Elendon

I've seen an example of this on my FB. A female labour party activist involved in campaigning explained that she was concerned about JC and didn't think he was a good leader because people had bought up concerns to her. A host of male Corbyn fans - all of whom consider themselves very left wing, forward thinking etc - descended en masse to tell her she was wrong, didn't know what she was talking about, obviously hated the left, Blairite traitor, red tory blah blah blah etc ad nauseum.

US Time Magazine hot off the press.

"However, Corbyn’s supporters point to his record-breaking mandate and unprecedented personal support, which has seen Labour grow into Western Europe’s biggest political party with more than 600,000 members. The success of Corbyn, with his disheveled and disarmingly honest style, is a reflection of the anti-establishment sentiment that has swept the Western world, most notably in the United States with Bernie Sanders’ energetic tilt for the Democratic nomination for President and Donald Trump’s successful bid for the Republican nomination.
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Corbyn’s enemies are licking their wounds after another bloody loss on the battlefield, but they still intend to win the war for Labour’s soul."

time.com/4506669/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-britain/

Historic times. An amazing victory for people against the Establishment and it is being reported worldwide.

As I said American politics is very different from our politics

Trump will use Putin as a good example of how a leader of a country can be that wouldn't go down well here. Also his view that Saddam knew how to rid Iraq of terrorists regardless of who got hurt again not a view of the British would take on we may now look back and realise Iraq was a mistake but we certainly wouldn't see Saddam in a good light

If Trump was ever to have shown solidarity let's say with Bin Laden or ISIS who have both been behind terrorist attacks on American mainland he would not stand a chance we wouldn't be talking about him

And then of course there is the comments from Stop The War Coalition support for jihadists to kill British troop in Iraq

Agree Corbn will not go quietly he will not step down even after a GE which he will lose

I think 'victory against the establishment' can only be considered against the back drop of a general election. He was not being tested against the wider electorate. I wonder if you will be as happy when the results of the next general election are coming through.

The kardashians are commented on worldwide, that doesn't give their views integrity!!

It's amazing the myth making that surrounds Corbyn. As if repeating something you want to be the case often enough makes it so.

I know many people who used to work with TS, and whom I have the utmost respect and liking for, think JC is wonderful. They don't see that he is just another old fashioned leftie sexist.

I do think that many (not all) on the left think that because they're left wing they cannot be prejudiced.

My DH, Labour member since a teenager campaigner, door knocker etc

Just cancelled his membership after 30 years

As a Tory, I am very pleased with the result.

I'm not surprised Tories are happy with the vote!

That aside though, everyone sound be concerned about the lack of a functioning opposition - no matter what their political persuasion.

Labour just crossed off my list for voting.

Will wait to see who occupies the centre ground as I don't like extremes.

'Trump will use Putin as a good example of how a leader of a country can be that wouldn't go down well here. Also his view that Saddam knew how to rid Iraq of terrorists regardless of who got hurt again not a view of the British would take on we may now look back and realise Iraq was a mistake but we certainly wouldn't see Saddam in a good light '

If they did a poll of the British public, I think you would be surprised by the results. Diane James, leader of UKIP, says Putin is one of her heroes. She doesn't really mean that but she refuses to back down to media pressure to fall in line.

4 out of 5 Express redaers preferred Putin to Cameron. Clearly they were having a laugh but it shows that they don't follow the Establishment consensus

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/627989/Vladimir-Putin-David-Cameron-poll-who-want-British-PM

Saddam was our ally, we backed him and trained his people etc while he was fighting the Iranians. Then later the political class turned against him, maybe due to Saudi pressure. But most people would probably agree with Trump, that Saddam who allowed women to drive, to go to university, to be free and educated etc, would have been better than what happened after the political class toppled him which eventually led to the rise of barbaric Isis who threaten the West and have put womens' rights back to the stoneage.

What the Establishment and the BBC think is not what the people think, as we saw in Brexit, with Trump etc etc.

'If Trump was ever to have shown solidarity let's say with Bin Laden or ISIS who have both been behind terrorist attacks on American mainland he would not stand a chance we wouldn't be talking about him '

Yes, but Corbyn hasn't done that. It was Owen Jones who wanted to Isis to "get round the table". Corbyn said "have they got offices or something?"

'And then of course there is the comments from Stop The War Coalition support for jihadists to kill British troop in Iraq '

As far as I know, it wasn't Corbyn who said that, it was someone who wrote an article. Corbyn doesn't agree with it.

Theresa May is trying to firmly park her tanks on the central lawn. And who can blame her?

I am in favour of tuition fees anyway, so it's Libdems for me.

'It was Owen Jones'

Sorry, Owen Smith. I apologise to Owen Jones for keeping to mix him up with the 172's Owen Smith. Owen Jones is nothing like Smith.

IME, it's the people who doorknock for Labour who are most anti-Corbyn, because they know that's he's currently going down like a lead balloon in the Labour heartlands and has no chance of attracting swing voters.

Usually vote labour at election time, won't be now, Lib Dems now probably.

The left wing The Canary headline

"JEZ HE DID! Despite a purge that prevented a quarter of Labour supporters from voting"

www.thecanary.co/2016/09/24/jez-despite-purge-prevented-quarter-labour-supporters-voting/

I do think that many (not all) on the left think that because they're left wing they cannot be prejudiced.

Absolutely agree with this point, flippinada

Diane James, leader of UKIP, says Putin is one of her heroes. She doesn't really mean that

You don't know that at all. And if she doesn't mean, why lie? Oh, yes, she's UKIP.

Think Claig is the only JC supporter on this thread.

Does that make the rest of us "the Establishment"?

I'm in a very middle class Labour clp. We have loads of money in the bank, but, they bemoan all women short lists, despite women paying half the subs.

It pisses me off. The men just want a weekend away, the women see it as an opportunity to better themselves. Dream on sister.

Better off in the unions. And that's saying something.

'Think Claig is the only JC supporter on this thread.'

No, there is BishopBrennansArse and others.

'Does that make the rest of us "the Establishment"?'

No, you are a supporter of the 172, whom the Establishment backs.