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Labour "ruling elite" "worried sick" about Jeremy Corbyn says Len McCluskey

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claig · 14/07/2015 07:43

"Unite's Len McCluskey said "an enormous surge" of people wanted to take part after Mr Corbyn was confirmed as running "because people are inspired".

Mr McCluskey accused the "ruling elite" of "trying to rubbish" Mr Corbyn.
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He said that those who thought Mr Corbyn was "marginalised" should "watch this space".

"I know the people who will be uncomfortable, despite the fact that they are saying the opposite - and that's the ruling elite," he said.

"They try and rubbish it, they try to turn it into a joke, but secretly they will be worried sick that ordinary people are suddenly given something to inspire them and something to link onto," Mr McCluskey said."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33504201

Good luck Jeremy Corbyn. Real democracy that ruins the plans of Labour's "ruling elite".

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suzannefollowmyvan · 10/08/2015 21:41

I heard Alastair Cambell on LBC he sounded very upset about JC, warning of tears before bedtime if we dont see sense

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claig · 10/08/2015 21:59

I just found an article on spinner Campbell's remarks about Corbyn.

"The former Labour spin doctor told Iain Dale that it was "like [Corbyn] is a cross between an earnest teacher and a rock star - and I'm afraid it's just a bit bizarre."

www.lbc.co.uk/campbell-corbyn-as-leader-is-threat-to-labours-existence-114369

What these highly paid spinners don't realise is that the public doesn't care about image. An earnest teacher is better than Blair, an earnest preacher.

Now Corbyn is being unfair for being in the race and Labour members are unfair for not choosng the robotic wound up talking spin machines.

"I think this whole Corbynmania thing, whatever we call it, is actually unfair on [the other candidates]. ...you've either got this fascinating story of this 66-year-old guy who has been around forever but nobody's really noticed...up against [the media projection of] three rather mediocre careerists."

The great and the good, the slimy and the spinners, the two ktchens and two dinners just don't undestand howdiscredited they all are in the public's eyes.

What will they say when Corbyn wins and when he beats the Tories? I hope he sacks the lot of them and relegates them to a "sofa" while he runs thw coutnry.

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suzannefollowmyvan · 10/08/2015 22:19

I thought Campbell was transparently cutching at straws there in his attempts to besmirch JC ?

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suzannefollowmyvan · 10/08/2015 22:24

Discredited indeed!
Blair and his acolytes have been relegated to pantomime villain status
And every one but them can see it
Oh no we're not
Oh yes you are ?

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squidzin · 10/08/2015 23:34

Anti establishment fragicalistic expialidocious.

Can we work on the Windsors next I am serious.

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squidzin · 10/08/2015 23:39

Claig Daily Mail has moved to Corbynmania.

BlackSunday Ttosca question for you, have you ditched your "i don't support labour" T-Shirt to vote corbyn in this week?

I have.

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blacksunday · 11/08/2015 19:44

squidzin-

No. I don't support Labour, yet I will still vote for Corbyn through my Unite union membership.

It would be tactically disadvantageous to ignore a popular left-wing movement, even if it is sublimated through mainstream politics.

I still think the mainstream Parliamentary parties are ruling class parties, and I don't have much hope for Labour winning under Corbyn, but I figure that we might as well have a half-decent opposition in Parliament than a Tory-scum-light party which will basically agree to all the sociopathic policies of the Tories anyway.

Corbyn will also help to raise the level and increase the width of the political debate. Something very much needed in the UK.

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blacksunday · 11/08/2015 19:45

claig-

"You thought right. It is for us, the people, against the politically correct Oxbridge metropolitan elite. But of course we all know that it is for the rich and powerful who are closest to us, the people, but are not fully with us which is why they attacked Farage against the wishes and cmments of the majority of their readers who were People's Army through and through."

This doesn't even begin to make sense. And by that I don't mean that I disagree with it. I mean that it is quite literally nonsense. A jumble of words strung together. Completely meaningless.

What are you trying to say?

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claig · 11/08/2015 20:20

It means the Daily Mail is the nearest to the people that we have got because they are against the metropolitan elite too. But they are for the elite and not for Farage or Corbyn.

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squidzin · 11/08/2015 21:10

BlackSunday, yep absolutely. But hold your hope because he could indeed win!

Claig, not sure about your certainty about the DM being "the nearest to the people we have got" because it is a fairly selective League of Gentlemen type misogynist racist homophobic readership demographic... and is also full of lots of made up stuff.

All mainstream media has been anti Farage and anti Corbyn yet their popularity has surged.

"The People" are wise to mainstream media and rightly suspicious of it. Corbyn and Farage have made their impact mainly through social media word-of-mouth Twitter Facebook etc.

Even The Guardian is anti Corbyn. Supposedly "Left" but actually is only faux-left Blairite since 2008 they have been under the thumb of a bunch of ex-banker PR type board of tax-dodging corporates.

Mainstream corporate media is rightly losing it's power. It is a true revolution.

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claig · 12/08/2015 17:37

A sign of how utterly desperate Labour's "ruling elite" have become at the will of the people is that apparently Gordon Bennett is preparing to intervene

"Mr Corbyn's growing support has sent shock waves through the Labour Party. Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown is understood to be preparing to intervene in a desperate bid to pull the party back from the brink.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3194968/How-Jeremy-Corbyn-welcomed-prospect-asteroid-wiping-humanity-attacked-pigeon-prejudice-demanded-ban-Action-Man-toys.html

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claig · 12/08/2015 19:37

The Voice of Truth, Tony Blair, has spoken again and yet more stridently.

The panic of the elite is palpable. The gatekeepers have failed in their task of restraining the people. The people are not listening to them, they are listening to Corbyn instead.

"The Labour party is in the worst danger in its 100-year history and faces possible annihilation if Jeremy Corbyn wins the leadership, Tony Blair has warned.

In a desperate appeal to Labour members and supporters, the former prime minister urged them to set aside their opinions about his three terms in power and save the party from self-destruction by rejecting Corbyn’s politics.

“It doesn’t matter whether you’re on the left, right or centre of the party, whether you used to support me or hate me,” he wrote. “But please understand the danger we are in.

“The party is walking eyes shut, arms outstretched over the cliff’s edge to the jagged rocks below. This is not a moment to refrain from disturbing the serenity of the walk on the basis it causes ‘disunity’. It is a moment for a rugby tackle if that were possible.”
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However, his latest article represents a significant intensification of the warnings and suggests there is mounting panic in the Labour party establishment about the idea that Corbyn is heading for victory."
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Michael Meacher, a Labour former minister and supporter of Corbyn, said Blairites need to understand that the surge in enthusiasm for the Islington North MP represents the dismantling of the New Labour era.

“It is the biggest non-revolutionary upturning of the social order in modern British politics,” he said. “The Blairite coup of the mid-1990s hijacked the party to the Tory ideology of ‘leave it all to the markets and let the state get out of the way’, and when asked what was her greatest achievement Mrs Thatcher triumphantly replied ‘New Labour’.

“After 20 years of swashbuckling capitalism the people of Britain have finally said enough, and Labour is now finally regaining its real principles and values. Understandably the Blairite faction is disconcerted by their abrupt loss of power, but they have a duty to remain loyal to the Labour party as the left has always done”.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/12/tony-blair-labour-faces-annihilation-if-jeremy-corbyn-wins-leadership

I always liked Meacher, one of the few decent Labour MPs. He was the only Labour MP who joined the people on the lawn outside the Bilderberg Conference where the elite met.

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claig · 12/08/2015 19:44

'the surge in enthusiasm for the Islington North MP represents the dismantling of the New Labour era.

“It is the biggest non-revolutionary upturning of the social order in modern British politics,'

Amazing stuff. We are going to see Diane Abbott in a senior cabinet role. Brilliant. What a change. No one saw this coming. It is a British revolution led by a self-effacing quiet man from his allotment. Big business, big banks and bigwigs are panicking. Every spinner in the country now has to earn their keep. Blair and all the rest are probably burning the midnight oil trying to spin an end to the revolution.

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WetAugust · 12/08/2015 19:44

Tony Blair and the Labour elite are the reasons why Labour voters have turned to Corbyn

The PPE Oxford educated Labour elite do not represent the root and branch Labour supporters Voting Corbyn is an opportunity to kick them out, to isolate them.

Also, one day Chilcot will be published. voting Corbyn lets Labour say - well we didn't support his war-mongering. It was the Blairites that did that

The party needs a good purge to get rid of its unrepresentative elite. Corbyn is that enema

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claig · 12/08/2015 19:49

WetAugust, you are right and the amazing thing is that it may be Corbyn who takes us out of Europe, not Farage.

Corbyn will renationalise many of our industries, he will scrap GM etc. If EU policy says any of that is illegal or that protecting workers above bankers is illegal, then Corbyn will tell them that we are leaving, because nothing will get in the way of socialism and social jusice. Big business will have to take a hike.

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WetAugust · 12/08/2015 19:59

Weirdly, I can see that we would be more likely to leave the EU under a Labour Govt than a Tory one. Historically it's been Labour that was less keen on the EU

The Greek bailout crisis demonstrated quite openly that the EU is just another manifestation of Big Corpa, and is not the fluffy socialist teddy bear that Labourites thought it was. Hence Owen Jones conversion on the road to Wigan Pier.

There is no room for individualism if countries in the homogenous EU where everything must be uniform. Corbyn would find himself pretty much strait-jacketed in trying to change this. Just look at how the EU got Syriza to abandon its novel portfolio of intended changes. That could make Corbyn more inclined to campaign for OUT. The EUs aims are totally incompatible with our ability to keep our NHS etc
I gave never voted Labour. I never expect to vote Labour

But if Corbyn campaigned for OUT I would vote for him.

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squidzin · 12/08/2015 20:01

And Bring Blair to trial !

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WetAugust · 12/08/2015 20:05

That's what Blair is frightened of Squid. Voting Corbyn isolates Blair and makes it more likely that he'll end up in The Hague. That's why he's squealing

Notice too where the rest of Tony's Cronies now are? All jumped ship. Some are even running charities in America

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claig · 12/08/2015 20:12

Yes, the way Greece has been treated opened everyone's eyes to what the EU really is and who really runs it. It is a bi business club which is why real socialistslike Tony Benn, Arthur Scargill and Bob Crow were agains.It doesn't allow a country to nationalise or help its industries and challenges on competiion grounds.

Len McCluskey and the unions are finally flexing their muscles and have had enough. They won't put up with more destruction of workers' rights

"Unite could vote for Britain to leave the EU, Len McCluskey says

Len McCluskey, the leader of the Unite union, says that his party could switch sides and vote "no" in an EU referendum


Britain’s biggest trade union could campaign to leave the European Union if David Cameron uses his renegotiation with Brussels to weaken workers’ rights, its leader has said.


Len McCluskey, the head of the Unite union, warned that his members could vote no in the referendum if David Cameron is successful in scrapping European Union labour laws."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11745758/Unite-could-vote-for-Britain-to-leave-the-EU-Len-McCluskey-says.html

We are living in incredible imes. The whole political world is in upheaval. The Tory victory was temporary, it won't last, it can't beat populist policies that serve the people.

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WetAugust · 12/08/2015 20:19

Not just the political world that's in upheaval Claig - the whole world is.

When Tony pulled off his coup he proved that Labour is susceptible to a counter-coup from Corbyn

I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams that Corbyn and / or Unite would support any campaign backing Cameron. If Cameron says IN they will campaign for OUT and vice versa They would see it as a chance to bring down the Tory Govt. We're living in dangerous times and we're led by a muppet

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howtorebuild · 12/08/2015 20:19

I hope the Tory victory was temporary.

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claig · 12/08/2015 20:21

'The EUs aims are totally incompatible with our ability to keep our NHS etc'

Yes, Corbyn is against TTIP. I heard the other day that TTIP will probably go through in 2016 or 2017. I think Cameron wants to get the Reerendum over before that is announced otherwise he coud lose it if Corbyn and Farage explain what TTIP will mean. for GM, state aid to industry and the NHS.

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claig · 12/08/2015 20:26

howtorebuild, the Tory victory is definitely temporary. It is the old politics, the politics of Burnham, Blair, Cameron, Kendall and Cooper - spin. People have moved on. Corbyn has given people hope.

No one really ever challenged the old politics. But Corbyn has torn it apart and done so fearlessly. Soon people will be proud to use the term "socialism" again rather than the spin word "progressive".

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claig · 12/08/2015 20:47

Progressive is Blair's favourite word, the word he used to bury socialism. The Blairite think tank is even called "Progress" and the "progressives" in ii have never been in so much regression as they are now, with Corbyn overturning everything they stand for. Their mates in the media can't help them; Labour Party members aren't listening.

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Tanith · 12/08/2015 21:32

I'm getting very tired of hearing why people shouldn't vote for Corbyn.
Never mind the scare tactics - let's hear why the other candidates are so much better for the Labour party.

It's the dire warnings against a candidate that are more likely to split the party - how can they unite after rubbishing one of their own party members like this?

As for the members of other parties that have joined Labour only to influence the vote - words fail me!
So either they have had a change of heart and have signed up to Labour's principles, or they are dishonourable liars.
Either way, they deserve to be thrown out of the parties they originate from.

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