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Labour "ruling elite" "worried sick" about Jeremy Corbyn says Len McCluskey

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claig · 14/07/2015 07:43

"Unite's Len McCluskey said "an enormous surge" of people wanted to take part after Mr Corbyn was confirmed as running "because people are inspired".

Mr McCluskey accused the "ruling elite" of "trying to rubbish" Mr Corbyn.
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He said that those who thought Mr Corbyn was "marginalised" should "watch this space".

"I know the people who will be uncomfortable, despite the fact that they are saying the opposite - and that's the ruling elite," he said.

"They try and rubbish it, they try to turn it into a joke, but secretly they will be worried sick that ordinary people are suddenly given something to inspire them and something to link onto," Mr McCluskey said."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33504201

Good luck Jeremy Corbyn. Real democracy that ruins the plans of Labour's "ruling elite".

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claig · 03/08/2015 23:40

John Harris in that Guardian video says that it is a very English revolution, that Corbyn is very modest and mild and is not a great speaker and yet people still like him.

I think they like him because he is decent, honest, principled and real just like the majority of the people in the country are too. Corbyn doesn't need the smooth slickness of Blair, the coached hand gestures, the phoney pre-written spin. All Corbyn needs is to be himself and he can sweep the nation because the whole country has had enough of the spin and lies and dishonesty and everyone is crying out for something decent and real. That is why the elites and their servants are biting their nails like they never have before.

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suzanneyeswecan · 03/08/2015 23:52

Cometh the hour, cometh the man!

claig · 04/08/2015 00:00

Yep, it is the mood of the people that is sweeping him to success. He started off a bit reluctant, just wanted to widen the debate, but the people aren't having none of that, they want him to go all the way and being a decent, honourable man, that is what he will do, for the sake of the Left rather than for himself.

"the former Chancellor [Ken Clarke] warned his Tory colleagues that Mr Corbyn’s branch of left-wing populism would be hard to campaign against."

The Tories will lose because their arguments are the same ones that Burnham, Cooper and Kendall use. Tory lite or Tory heavy, they're all the same, and just as Corbyn has trounced the Labour Tory lite team, he will trounce the same arguments of the Tory heavies.

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suzanneyeswecan · 04/08/2015 00:06

I suppose if things go too far in one direction then it only take a small push for them to swing back the other way

a small spark to start a big forest fire

ahem, sorry about the mixture of metaphors!

claig · 04/08/2015 00:09

I love mixed metaphors. Yes, everything is about balance. In the past, Thatcher was the balance against a country that was being held to ransom by union bosses, but now things are swinging back the other way.

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claig · 05/08/2015 21:33

Excellent article on Corbyn in the Irish News. Shows the contempt for Labour members that the Labour elite had.

'Corbyn is antithesis of `plastic' Blairites
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Corbyn has been packing venues all over England ever since he was nominated as a last minute candidate because he couldn’t muster enough MPs’ votes to get on the slate. He only made it after some MPs decided it would be better to have a wider contest than just competing Blairite clones. How they must be kicking themselves.

Corbyn is a supremely decent guy. He’s only coming to Belfast because he promised he would before he realised how much in demand he is. There are no votes for him here.

Last night he was in Croydon. Tomorrow he’s back in London, then Norwich. The only question is whether the venues his supporters have booked are big enough to hold the crowds. Corbyn’s popularity has provoked blind terror in the Labour party. The other candidates are running around like headless chickens.

How has it happened? There are at least two reasons.
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The second reason is much more complicated. There’s a mighty backlash among party members against Blairism. Not only because of the social and economic policies Blair and his acolytes pursued in government and still do, but because the Blairites have abused the Labour party as their personal possession.

They used to say that in some constituencies they didn’t count Labour votes, they weighed them: places like south Wales, Glasgow, Tyne Tees, Liverpool. For the last twenty years or so the Blairite leadership took advantage of those places’ unthinking tribal support for Labour and parachuted in ‘professional’ politicians and policy wonks, people who had no connection with the districts they represented.

Ed Miliband himself is a good example. A north London intellectual and politics geek he is MP for Doncaster. What was Peter Mandelson doing being MP for Hartlepool?

Most of this political class never had a job outside politics moving seamlessly from Oxbridge to party policy work, to special adviser then MP. The latest development has been for the children of Blairites – the ‘red princes’ - to win nomination for ‘safe seats’ which this time turned out to be not so safe.
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Support for Corbyn is a rebellion against this political class which dominates Labour. The party’s MPs are not like the people who vote in the constituencies they represent. They don’t look like them or speak like them and they need local guides to find their way round the constituency.

Furthermore they are robotic, formulaic, colourless. None of the three Blairite candidates displays a personality let alone any charisma.'

www.irishnews.com/opinion/columnists/2015/08/05/news/corbyn-is-antithesis-of-plastic-blairites-211856/

'Support for Corbyn is a rebellion against this political class which dominates Labour.'

Support for UKIP is a rebelion against the entire political class.

But the political class which dominates Labour is the entire political class, they're all the same, which is why it will be possible for UKIP voters to join Labour ones in rebelling against the whole rotten lot of them.

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squidzin · 05/08/2015 21:43

Work the system to beat the system. The truth will bite them on the backside.
#JezWeCan!

claig · 05/08/2015 22:05

squidzin, this is an amazing time in politics. I bet you are pleased and rightly so. Corbyn is amazing and has overturned every elite orthodoxy at a stroke. He has shaken the system to its core and has got every spinner and servant in a tizzy. Everytime he opens his mouth he drops another bombshell that shakes the orthodoxy and political crony consensus of the Lords, Baronesses, luvvies and entire political class.

Here is Owen Jones who is spot on.

"The Right are mocking Jeremy Corbyn because they fear him

If Jeremy Corbyn wins the Labour leadership, he will come under attack from the media establishment, the Tories and much of his own party. That's because he presents a dangerous threat to the post-Thatcher political consensus.

"Get Corbyn" is nothing if not an inclusive campaign. The liberal left and conservatives alike have united, dripping condescension, smarm, contempt or outright bile on Jeremy Corbyn and those who support him. The Corbyn campaign may have unleashed the biggest pan-British progressive grassroots political movement for many years, but it has few friends either in the media establishment or Westminster."

www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/08/owen-jones-right-are-mocking-jeremy-corbyn-because-secretly-they-fear-him

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Alyosha · 06/08/2015 10:35

Quite apart from my dislike of Corbyn's politics, he is a defender of some of the most brutal and racist regimes in the world.

Like Slobadan Milosovic

www.ibtimes.co.uk/james-bloodworth-left-wing-case-against-comrade-jeremy-corbyn-1513969

It's because of the cold war hangover he has, that America is the Worst Country Ever.

squidzin · 06/08/2015 10:48

Indeed it is. There are plenty of people in the establishment weaving their own hanging rope by trying to "Get Corbyn".

The People are not so naive.

claig · 08/08/2015 22:49

The Daily Mail reporting on Corbynmania

'The Corbyn bandwagon has become a juggernaut,' writes Robert Hardman
Norfolk is largely a Tory heartland but huge numbers came out to his rally
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The crowd is not just stretching round the block. It's stretching around the next block, too.

Inside the packed, perspiring, exuberant hall — once the headquarters of Barclays Bank, no less — the star of the show enjoys his first standing ovation a good 45 minutes before he has uttered a single word.

It's not led by stooges or union cheerleaders. It's as unspun as the earnest and surprisingly uncharismatic object of all this adoration.

Retired headmistress Marion Chapman leaps to her feet the moment he walks into the room, and everyone else follows suit.

This is Jeremy Corbyn
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How Westminster's smug political bubble chuckled when this teetotal, vegetarian, bomb-banning chum of IRA godfathers and Hamas executioners put himself forward to be Labour leader two months ago.

He even cracks a joke (and he doesn't crack many) about the fact he 'comfortably' secured the requisite number of nominations 'with two minutes to spare'. But no one is chortling now.
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And whatever one thinks of his politics, he is reaching parts of the electorate which feel abandoned by the political establishment.
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Westminster's solution to the credibility crisis is still to reach for celebrities, be they Labour's Lord Sugar or his Apprentice sidekick, Tory soccer boss Baroness (Karren) Brady, who has worked for many years with porn barons.

Beyond London SW1, however, a political vacuum has long been growing. And right now, Jeremy Corbyn, the very antithesis of celebrity, is filling it.

Tonight, he is in Norfolk. On the electoral map, it's as blue as the Caribbean, with just one blob of Labour red in Norwich South and a splash of Lib Dem orange in North Norfolk.

Yet this rally is bigger than anything seen across the whole of East Anglia during the last General Election.
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Meanwhile, the political commentariat — the supposed experts who got the last election so wrong — can only look on, aghast as he criss-crosses the country, tearing up long-established Labour Party positions on any number of issues.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3189866/A-plausible-zealot-Robert-Hardman-joins-faithful-flocking-cheer-Comrade-Corbyn-man-views-patently-bonkers-suddenly-popular.html

Incredible stuff, read the article for even more earth shockers. This is a people's rebellion. It comes as no srprise to me because I am People's Army - the first people's revolt against the elite and their servant political class - but this eclipses UKIP, eclipses the SNP and blows the smug Tories away. We have never ever seen such a thing in a mainstream party, a turning away of the people en masse from spin, lies, slick statements and oleaginous Oxbridge oafs.

Corbyn is making history. The Tollpuddle martyrs look down on the Labour movement in admiration.

When Corbyn announces that he is scrapping GM food and scrapping fracking, even I will vote Labour and I never thought I would be saying that.

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suzanneyeswecan · 08/08/2015 23:24

5th picture down was taken just moments before a heavenly choir emerged from the clouds to adore him :o

claig · 08/08/2015 23:35

[grin[ Yep, a sign from the Heavens. Hallelujah. Even the angels are swept up in Corbynmania and like the sound of Corbynomics.

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suzanneyeswecan · 09/08/2015 14:46

would it not be very bad news for shareholders if utilities and/or railways were re-nationalised?
I suppose it would have to be done in some sort of very gradual way so as to avoid 'shocks' to the wider economy?

I can see that there is a good argument for preventing profiteering in certain essential area's such as utilities but I have no idea how re nationalisation would work.
Could we not have some kind of set up which combines the benefits of public and private ownership whilst reducing the downsides.

Or is that just some loony utopian fantasy which goes against the law of 'you cant have your cake and eat it'!

Are we being primed to see JC as the new messiahShock

claig · 09/08/2015 21:14

Yes, it would be bad news for shareholders. I am not exactly sure how it could be done.

'Are we being primed to see JC as the new messiah'

He is not the messiah, but he has restored hope and is better than the spinning liars.

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squidzin · 10/08/2015 10:09

Some sort of legislation that caps profit at a very low percentage, or a 75-80% tax on profit specific to British utilities and transport would be a half-way solution.
Any solution would be very tricky to implement, but at least mainstream discourse is finally awake to the discussion. JC THE MESSIAH!

suzanneyeswecan · 10/08/2015 11:06

yes and awake to a discussion which doesnt just polarise into left vs right, public vs private, which doesn't stick rigidity to ideology or doctrine.
Move away from 'black and white' thinking, from false dichotomies ?

suzanneyeswecan · 10/08/2015 11:20

Because often when one challenges the doctrine of the free market with a suggestion that there might be a better way the response is along the lines of 'well if you don't like it why don't you just GO AND LIVE IN NORTH KOREA'

blacksunday · 10/08/2015 20:10

So Claig, I'm up for a laugh:

Tell us how you reconcile your love for Britain's fascist-loving reactionary newspaper the Daily Fail, and the newspaper's evident hatred and smear of your other true love, Jeremy Corbyn.

claig · 10/08/2015 20:27

Because Farage and Corbyn are both for the people and against the elites and their political servants and promoted lackeys (from Oxbridge). The Daily Mail has to go against Corbyn because Corbyn is a threat to the Esablishment, just as the Daily Mail went all out against Farage becasse he was a threat to the Establshment

"FARAGE FOR BREITBART: Corbyn Under Same Establishment Attack as I Was"

www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/23/farage-for-breitbart-corbyn-might-win-the-labour-leadership-and-england-might-be-finishes-in-the-ashes-i-hope-im-wrong/

It is the same Establishment and their servants against the people's champions - Farage and Corbyn.

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claig · 10/08/2015 20:36

You have to understand the sheer panic that Corbyn generates in the Establishment - even more panic than Farage does. Thatcher said "the lady's not for turning" and it is the same with Corbyn - he's not for turning, they can't buy him off, buy him out, offer him a knighthood. He has got his allotment and that's all he needs - a truly principled man. That is why they are panicking, he's principl and their lot aren't - Blair and the band aren't. They can't sway Corbyn. That's why they can't sleep at night.

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blacksunday · 10/08/2015 20:41

So you're confused and incoherent again. I thought the Daily Fail was "The People's Paper"?

claig · 10/08/2015 20:43

'Read between the lines of the Telegraph‘s article and you can see that Conservatives are terrified of Jeremy Corbyn’s popularity.'

voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/06/18/corbyns-tv-popularity-terrifies-tories/

Corbyn is set to wipe out the SNP in Scotland, wipe out UKIP in England and then wipe out the Tories in England. This is going to be a wipeout. The public mood has swung and I have gone with it.

The public will ignore Corbyn's stupid Labour politcally correct stuff because of the good things that he offers which no one else can.

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claig · 10/08/2015 20:47

'I thought the Daily Fail was "The People's Paper'

You thought right. It is for us, the people, against the politically correct Oxbridge metropolitan elite. But of course we all know that it is for the rich and powerful who are closest to us, the people, but are not fully with us which is why they attacked Farage against the wishes and cmments of the majority of their readers who were People's Army through and through.

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claig · 10/08/2015 21:00

Corbyn keeps saying "all decisions will be made democratically by party members" etc and that is what truly frightens the Blairites and their masters because power will be with the people and not with the elite's lackeys on their publicly paid for "sofa goverment" couches.

If Corbyn gets in, their whole game is up. They will stop lying and scaremongering about their "climate catastrophe" because they will be facing real catastrophe for their plans with Corbyn and the people making decisions democratically.

What will happen to TTIP, what will hapen to their GM crop and GM food plans and fracking? I think Corbyn will scrap the lot and so do they and they don't like it one bit.

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