Any UKIP supporters on here? What exactly are you voting for?

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I confess I don't know what the UKIP policies are, but wondered if the people voting for them could explain to me what they are please. Thanks.

I think I made a bad choice yesterday. Although I have voted Tory at every election, I just couldn't do it this time. I hate not just what they have done with the power they have but also the way that they have gone about nearly everything. Doing things not in manifesto, back tracking on things that were, cosy meetings (and subsequent policies) with donors, cronyism etc

So yesterday I voted UKIP as a protest vote. Stupid ! I am appalled at their policies and would never ever want them to be in power. I just don't know how else to engage with the political process, and let the Cons know how I feel. I wrote to my MP and she didn't respond!

All very depressing.

UKIP has 0 MPs, 0 councils, 0 MSPs, 0 Assembly members in Wales or London. In 2009 the BNP polled 30%, yesterday they only managed 9%. UKIP may have 62 Councillors, but the GREEN PARTY have 130. Hardly the next political powerhouse.

I'm not that worried about them, yet. People realized that the BNP were a hopeless, hateful, one-issue, clueless bunch of losers and voted them out the first possible opportunity they got, hopefully, that's exactly what will happen to UKIP after people realize what a bunch of witless goons riddled with bigotry they really are.

morethanpotatoprints I'm in that age group and there is no way I will be voting for this bunch of dimwit bigots. Thank you, that is all.

UKIP has been saying what many think, and that is why people are voting for them. In the general election 950,000 voted UKIP. Many feel they don't have a voice on gay marriage, and immigration. Many voted UKIP where I live and I believe most are old Tory voters sick of Cameron, whom many believe is not a Tory, if he was one I would have voted Conservative!
I feel UKIP will be a force to be reckoned with in the future, because most are sick of the lies,spin and shite from the other parties.

UKIP appeal? They are not Lib dem or Tory

Gruffaloatemysocks. Thank you for your impartial input. So are you saying that 950.000 people are bigots goons etc? You make yourself sound daft, if anyone is a goon surely it's you?
Oh by the way UKIP has been around for over 20 years! The leader of immigration is married to a woman Filipino woman and his agent is married to a women to from the West Indies, both are racists in your book I suppose?
Name calling is so infantile.............yawn.................

"In 2009 the BNP polled 30%, yesterday they only managed 9%."

The BNP NEVER polled 30%. In 2009 the BNP polled 6.2% at the Euro elections.

Flatpackhamster - totally agree with what you said about Wallison's comment.

There is a real arrogance in stating that someone is stupid (or more predictably) a racist just because they have a different opinion to you. This is one of the reasons why people are so disillusioned with the 3 main parties, because they belittle and ignore the real worries and concerns of the very people who they are supposed to be representing and dismiss them with these predictable labels rather than bothering to hear why they are voting in a particular way.

They (politicians) are all lying twattish twats..... But the UKIP have a fair point,

Why are the British borders open for immigrants to come and work, when there is a million or so people who already live here out of work?

Do the British unemployed just not want to do the jobs the immigrants will do?

Or is it the employers choosing the cheaper work force?

This discussion could go on forever and everyone has different opinions.

ironman,

Did you bother to read any of Guffalo's other posts? You know, the ones where she points out just how many other distasteful policies UKIP has, not just their views on immigration?

(and yes, you do sound like nothing more than a witless Goon, as you have focussed on something that Gruffalo hasn't singled out)

Their children are only entitled to school places after the citizens and PR's have been allocated theirs.

That happens in the USA. The migrant worker children simply don't get educated. 'Cause it's so great to have a large underclass of disenfranchised under-educated people in the country, and all.

I know a little bit of background about local UKIP wins. Winner-1 owns a chain of building supplies shops, has a prominent community profile because people use his shops. His manifesto names solar energy, wind energy, incineration of waste (UKIP dislikes all these) and jobs for youth as main issues (wants more apprenticeships by cutting regulations, I mean why would you want regulation of apprenticeships, I ask you, bring back indentured servitude, I say). Nothing about Europe or immigration.

Winner-2 is professional busy-body; his highest profile is in opposing local wind turbine applications anywhere in the county (he writes and funds printing of colour flyers against any application sent to every household). Nothing about Europe or immigration. So locally, UKIP is mostly about opposition to subsidies to renewable energy, that IS their local manifesto. They are the most anti-Green party.

UKIP are Jeremy Clarkson types, generally.

To be honest, NONE of the parties is worth voting for, because they do not have the interests of the majority population (by which I mean those who are not privileged, not wealthy) and I mean this for Labour and the Condems as well as the Tories (and I'm life-long Labour supporter). Labour are bereft of ideas, and in any case, are to be blamed for actually initiating many of the most controversial and hated of Tory policies (thanks, Tony Blair). UKIP however is NOT the answer. It is fine to spout all kind of attention/vote grabbing ideas when in Opposition but just how they function in reality is difficulty to see. And yes, in my view, UKIP is BNP-Lite.

Pretty sure I didn't say all of UKIPs members are goons, racists or bigots.

The leader of immigration is married to a woman Filipino woman and his agent is married to a women to from the West Indies, both are racists in your book I suppose?

No, I've never accused anyone of being racist for simply being in UKIP. I have only ever pointed out it is a party riddled with far-right xenophobes and racists, which it is. Why is the fact he's married to someone from the West Indies relevant? Smacks of, 'I CAN'T be racist, some of my best friends are black!'

PatPig my mistake, I misread some statistics that a friend linked me about the BNP/UKIP.

I think that my point about the BNP's waning support is still relevant though.

We only had a choice between Tory and UKIP in our ward, which annoyed me immensely. If there had been an independent I would have voted for them.

I also have heard a lot of people (friends/colleagues/neighbours) talking about voting UKIP as a protest or to send a message to the big 3.

Dallas you said that basically UKIP is full of 'witless goons, riddled with bigotry' Its the sort of response I expect from people who don't want to hear why people vote UKIP. I suppose you think if you slag them off, and insult them long enough they and the supporters voters will go away.
This tactic backfired on the old codger Ken Clarke, it just angered Tory voters and made sure they voted UKIP.

You sound as I would, if I thought the Labour Party had any chance getting into power again, angry......

Gruffalo, 'quite life' tablets are very good for high blood pressure.......

UKIP have been doing well in European Elections since 2004 (they didn't do very well in 1999). In 2009 they were the second largest party.

The BNP have never done as well even as UKIP did in 1999, their support was always overplayed by the meeja, whereas UKIP haven't really been heeded.

I am not a racialamist but they are taking our jobs and their food smells funny

I voted ukip in the general election and I will vote for them again. We didn't have a vote ystday.

When people say 'I vote UKIP because the other parties don't listen'

What they mean is that 'I am a lazy twat who can't be bothered engaging my brain to think through any issue, but the UKIP soundbites and unaffordable empty promises chime with what I read in the Daily Mail and my own petty prejudices'

If you think the other parties aren't listening, take some responsibility; write/tweet to your MP, engage with an issue in your community, attend a political meeting.

But no that would require actually doing or knowing something.

Yes, that's exactly what I said if you rip it out of context and deliberately misinterpret it.

People realized that the BNP were a hopeless, hateful, one-issue, clueless bunch of losers and voted them out the first possible opportunity they got, hopefully, that's exactly what will happen to UKIP after people realize what a bunch of witless goons riddled with bigotry they really are.

It's pretty clear I'm talking about councilors there and not every single member of UKIP.

Oh, and you're right, I am absolutely FURIOUS that people are continually ignoring every other policy this party has, regardless of how much it would destroy this country because of one maybe two policies that they agree with and making excuse after excuse for councilors who are continually shown to be unapologetically homophobic, sexist, racist and abilist.

Hully

Composhat. I agree with what you say (mainly) but you can write to your MP as much as you like, but if they decide on a policy, such as going to war, having mass immigration or anything else, and they don't want to change it they don't. The majority of politicians do not listen to the public, they say they will listen, like the Lib-Dems did on tuition fees, and sign pledges etc; but at the end of the day they do want they want.