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Any UKIP supporters on here? What exactly are you voting for?

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chicaguapa · 03/05/2013 07:44

I confess I don't know what the UKIP policies are, but wondered if the people voting for them could explain to me what they are please. Thanks.

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feeltheforce · 03/05/2013 14:47

gruffalo they sound just like old school Tories to me.

Chipstick10 · 03/05/2013 14:47

How angry everyone sounds. We live in a democracy and will vote for who ever I like, and I will read any paper I like.

PatPig · 03/05/2013 14:47

UKIP have been re-elected year on year in the EU elections.

Unlike the BNP, they don't lose their seats second time round.

pamish · 03/05/2013 14:50

Voting for a party means voting for the whole platform. UKIP members have called for compulsory abortion for disabled foetuses, compulsory euthanasia for the over 80's, they hate the gay marriage 'diversion', mums should be at home to get dads back into work, benefit claimants are ?a parasitic underclass of scroungers?. These are from individual members not party policy, but those individuals have found a home in UKIP. The above are all logical one-step-forward moves from their existing policies. Hopefully this protest vote will wither away but they are very dangerous indeed, don't give them any credence.

GruffaloAteMySocks · 03/05/2013 14:52

feeltheforce In a lot of ways they are like old school Tories

A relevant article for people to read; Is UKIP a party of bigots?

Xenia · 03/05/2013 14:56

They seem to be appealing to quite a few people so it would make sense for the major parties to see what are the issues that people want - small businesses want less regulation, many voters want simple fair flat taxes or whatever the issue is and take account of it.
UKIP are not likely to win the next election, even Farage knows that and nor will the Tories do a deal with UKIP

George83 · 03/05/2013 14:57

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garlicyoni · 03/05/2013 14:58

When people say 'I vote UKIP because the other parties don't listen': What they mean is that 'I am a lazy twat who can't be bothered engaging my brain to think through any issue, but the UKIP soundbites and unaffordable empty promises chime with what I read in the Daily Mail and my own petty prejudices'.

Compos, I think it's the politicians' responsibility to address this. It's unreasonable to expect great masses of hard-pressed people, many of whom have never received training in critical listening, to invest time & effort in working through matters of state. It's a pity more of us would rather discuss BGT than PMQs, but not a crime or even surprising.

Despite my better-than average education and political awareness, I am majorly fucked off by the fact that none of the people running the conditions of my life have ever lived anything like a normal life. It's always pissed me off, tbh, but in the old days there were at least policy-makers in Parliament who had 'lived' and who stayed in touch with those who do.

I've only voted non-Labour twice (once libdem, once green) and I wouldn't do it again. But I am bitterly disappointed in the Labour we have now, and - should they not liven up their messages before 2015 - regret to say I'll probably spoil my vote instead of supporting yet another bunch of self-referential numpties. It's not our job to seek the parties' missions, it's their job to offer them. The fact that UKIP makes a better show of it than Labour isn't a criticism of voters, it's a condemnation of Labour.

gabsid · 03/05/2013 14:59

I missed my chance yesterday as I went to vote. Outside the polling station was our Lib Dem candidate and then 3 elderly ladies from UKIP one of whom was the local candidate, I assume.

Really, I wish I had asked them a few questions and why I should be voting for them and later told them that I am an immigrant. I live in a village which is populated by 70% skilled working class and about 30% middle class mostly white British.

Besides, if they don't want immigrants they better not get sick then because our local hospital is pretty much run by foreign doctors.

George83 · 03/05/2013 15:03

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gabsid · 03/05/2013 15:04

They put big posters up around here with the slogan - something like 'immigration, enough is enough'. There are hardly any immigrants around here and those I see are making an important contribution to society, pay their taxes and couldn't easily be replaced.

LtEveDallas · 03/05/2013 15:11

Dallas you said that basically UKIP is full of 'witless goons, riddled with bigotry

Umm, no I didn't ironman? With statements like that you're not doing much to persuade me that you aren't a witless goon TBH.

So what do you think about their other policies ironman? Taking immigration and homophobia out of the equation, are you married to a female? Do you have female children or employees/colleagues? Do you think that women should stay at home whilst their men work?

MoreBeta · 03/05/2013 15:20

Just wanted to get this off my chest.

Wind power is an insanely expensive and unreliable technology for delivering the electricity we need. UKIP opposing it is just plain sensible - it is not a question of politics but economics.

flatpackhamster · 03/05/2013 15:20

This appears to have degenerated in to yet another thread where anti-UKIPpers display their intolerance, bigotry and petty prejudices. Which are far better than UKIP's intolerance, bigotry and petty prejudices, naturally.

IamMrsElf · 03/05/2013 15:22

I wouldn't vote for them. I don't like Farage. I don't like what they stand for.

If you want to protest vote, consider an independent candidate, campaigning on local issues.

I think politics is an incredibly personal subject, like what type of underwear you like - it has to fit you and you have to feel comfortable, it doesn't have to be something you show to other people, but I would only show people I trust.

pickledginger · 03/05/2013 15:24

Check your history.This isn't a new phenomenon and is happening all over Europe at the moment. Recession and prolonged economic hardship leads to a shift to the right and the rise of nationalist, isolationist anti-immigration groups. It's about finding someone to blame for the problems.

Blueskiesandbuttercups · 03/05/2013 15:28

More beta I agree totally re the wind thing and we're paying for them!!!

Dawndonna · 03/05/2013 15:31

I'm 54. I wouldn't vote UKIP if you paid me. Policies are bigoted, although give them credit, it's not one strand bigotry, there are a fair few hits there! They're uncosted, unaffordable and generally unworkable.
My protest vote went to The Green Party.

roundtoit · 03/05/2013 15:34

As far as i am concerned the whole lot of them are all the same, in it for the glory and for the expenses. waste of space the lot of them.

somebloke123 · 03/05/2013 15:35

Wind turbines are wonderful things. They input money from inflated electricity bills from single mothers on council estates and they output (via government subsidies) school fees and chateau-bottled claret for rich landowners such as Cameron's father-in-law.

Also they provide a nice little earner for pro-green "consultants" such as Tim Yeo and John Selwyn Gummer.

slug · 03/05/2013 15:37

Denmark gets 25% of it's electricity from wind power. Quick! Someone tell them it's insanely expensive and unreliable.

jaywall · 03/05/2013 15:48

I'm a UKIP voter. And very happy to be so.

Im no fan of socialism, i believe it is essentially a flawed system that in effect actually slows down or even reverses a groups natural progression.
Because of this i am obviously no fan of the EU as it currently stands, i have nothing against it in principle but it's very socialist ideals are what prevent me from supporting it.

So traditionally my choice has always been Conservative, even though their stance on Europe hasn't always fit exactly with mine they were the closest match. This is the first time in my life where i have a real choice and that is a good thing.
My voting for UKIP is tactical, i don't believe for a minute they will create a majority government but they don't need to. They need enough of a power base to force some issues back onto the table. A referendum on our continuing membership of the EU in it's current state as one of them.

All this nonsense talk of UKIP being against legal immigrants in this country is nonsense and the usual leftist 'playing the race card'. If you take the time to read their policies they are quite sensible, they talk about limiting future immigration and combating illegal immigration which seems the kind of sensible policy that Labour have admitted they should have had during their disastrous tenure.

Anyway, don't take anyone's word for it on here, we are so lucky in this age with all the information we want within seconds. Ignore the opinions of others until you create your own.

ElliedJeels · 03/05/2013 15:49

I just read this on the BBC website, and it struck me as horrifying:

"UKIP has been vocal in its opposition to what it sees as "political correctness" in public life. It also argues that multiculturalism has "split" British society. It would legislate to allow smoking in pubs, in designated rooms, and hold local referendums on repealing the hunting ban."

Multiculturalism has split British society? Wow. My happy, contributing, law-abiding little family has a lot to answer for it seems.

jaywall · 03/05/2013 15:57

slug Fri 03-May-13 15:37:45
Denmark gets 25% of it's electricity from wind power. Quick! Someone tell them it's insanely expensive and unreliable.

Or rather more pointedly you could tell them they have the most expensive electricity in europe.

Blueskiesandbuttercups · 03/05/2013 15:58
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