Any UKIP supporters on here? What exactly are you voting for?

[chicaguapa]

I confess I don't know what the UKIP policies are, but wondered if the people voting for them could explain to me what they are please. Thanks.

Correct me if I'm wrong,

But if one country announces that they are assuming control over areas which are currently controlled by another country,

Isn't that generally construed as an act of war?

NiceTabard,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters

Check the link, UKIP are not declaring war on France and Ireland.

Erm

The UKIP policy is: (and I quote)

"· Establish an ?Exclusive Economic Zone? extending 200 nautical miles from the UK?s coastline over which the UK exerts total control"

Your link is irrelevant.

jaywell have you read all their policies? Do you think its all a good idea? Or did you just read the manifesto?

Anyone thought that the paragraph (I've just read it) assumes that the reader knows that Territorial Waters would also kick in?

ie the zone would be 200nm max, where it wasn't affected by other recognised boundaries?

You can't complain at the remainder of teh fishery policy. In the not to distant future it could drop from discussion.

Industrial fishing and the 'quota' system has stripped the seas bare. And it doesn't really matter which flag those trawlers flew.

And I agree that if this policy were effected they would not be declaring war on france and ireland.

It could however be taken as an act of war against france, ireland, belgium and holland.

Unless maybe UKIP are using a different dictionary and so the words mean something completely different to them than they mean to everyone else who speaks english...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

NiceTabard,
The link is not irrelevant, it shows the agreed exclusive economic zone of a nations waters to be 200 nautical miles.

Do policy writers for political parties usually assume that readers understand the detail of such arcane principles as different types of waters?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm that would be a NO.

Again with the giving the benefit of the doubt. Seems to be a habit here doesn't it.

Personally I find it more straightforward to think they simply wrote what they thought.

Lazaruss this is in the small businesses and companies section.

'although UKIP has a general policy of freeing employers from burdens which are not to do with their job of creating value and in particular do not apply to our international competitors. UKIP proposes:

a) To amend the Race Relations Amendment Act (2000) so that it is much less intrusive into the affairs of companies and organisations, in particular, by removing the need to positively promote ?diversity? in the workforce which many see as divisive. The Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations (2003) and the Employment Equality (Sexual Orientation) Regulations (2003), which each implement EC directives imposing duties on employers to positively promote social engineering policies, will be repealed as a natural consequence of leaving the EU. Contract compliance as practised by the Greater London Assembly, for example, will be outlawed. UKIP will oppose measures in the ?Equality? Bill to force employers in the public sector to discriminate against the indigenous male population and to apply contract compliance to enforce such treatment on staff in private firms bidding for public sector contracts.'

Oh more or less abolishing maternity (and parental) leave would reduce diversity in the workplace.

That much is just a simple fact. I think that is where others have been coming from.

Bolly

Ouch.

nicetabard you get it.

BOLLYGOOD. In a early post on this subject i said we need a REFERENDUM NOW, but i also said that instead of informing people that the E.U costs us 53 MILLON POUNDS A DAY 19 BILLION A YEAR. Tell us that 85% of all our trade goes though the E.U. I fear we would hear from the Newspapers " THE SPRIT OF NELSON" and other riduculous comments that could turn the most important vote for 70 years in to a joke.

Bollygood,
Fair enough. Im all for reason, ..everyones no matter how different from mine, so long as it can be reasoned it is valid imho.

Im not a member, just a donator. I don't have the time time right now. I used to be a member of the conservatives, not active just interested. But with the way this is going i must admit i am tempted to get involved with UKIP.

I get where you're going with that NT.

But you don't necessarily want your manifesto/policy to turn in to the Encyclopedia Britannica.

In this case a quick google revealed that it is actually a normal thing to have 200nm zone. And it is explained how the overlap of different territorial waters work, even with examples of how it causes drama at times.

I am giving them the benefit of the doubt, but then I quite like being the antagonist.

But many in UK and on here seem to be doing the complete opposite.

George83 I for one would not have liked to have been a woman 50 years ago without the many laws which now protect me in and outside of the workplace.

Given their attitude to Forriners, I am not entirely convinced that giving them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their policies about Forriners is the correct course of action.

I have been on a diversity course recently with my company.

the message was

treat other people how you would like to be treated
understand that other people are not exactly the same as you, and thus try not to fuck them off

Can't see the harm in it myself.

Beatback, that's rubbish, not true, bullcacka.

Most of our trade is outside of the EU and we have quite a large deficit with regards to EU trade. For that reason it will not stop, it benefits the EU to trade with us.

The situation for women in the workplace has demonstrably improved over the years.

The fact that there is still a way to go, does not mean that all the gains that have been made should be rolled back.

Actually George83 I have been through more than you could possibly know with the whole maternity rights problem. But they have also benefited me when working for good companies and I have been able to keep my career going with a job to go back to. Without them there would be even more trouble for women. Not only that but the discrimination act protected me when I had to fight against the negative and undeserved treatment I received. The difference with UKIP and the current rights are- there would be none. At least we currently have some options.