Any UKIP supporters on here? What exactly are you voting for?

[chicaguapa]

I confess I don't know what the UKIP policies are, but wondered if the people voting for them could explain to me what they are please. Thanks.

Xenia, I know that you're a bit hard of thinking, but surely even you can see the difference between parents choosing to terminate a pregnancy and being forced by law into doing so.

This is getting stupid, "ARE PEOPLE SAYING IF YOU ARE POLITCALLY RIGHT OF CENTRE YOU ARE A RACIST". That is totally Untrue, you are not "RACIST" because you like "GRAMMAR SCHOOLS" "LOWER TAXES" and more "LIBERTY". U.K.I.P has a small number of racists,in its party and they have to be kicked out, "WE ARE GETTING VERY STUPID AND SILLY" if we think 25% of people are bigoted and racist. It is also doing injustice to the work that people are trying to do "DESTROY RACISM".

Actually wallison (if it wasn't clear) I was talking about the posters on this thread.

WALLISON. Are you saying U.K.I.P are NAZIS. they are now a mainstream political party, no one is saying anything about terminating pregnancies.

Wallison, you are correct. But the difference,as I understand it, is that UKIP do not "whip" candidates. It is quite possible,therefore, for a candidate to have personalviews that are not those of his/her party.

Clearly, this guy was an idiot, with some repugnant views. He was not,though,reflecting UKIP party policy.

I suspect you are well aware of this.

Well, no-one apart from UKIP candidates, no.

"UKIP is the only UK party which expels BNP members I understand."

Can you be the member of 2 parties at the same time?

'"WE ARE GETTING VERY STUPID AND SILLY" if we think 25% of people are bigoted and racist'

Exactly right. this contempt for ordinary people is similar to the contempt for Daily Mail readers who are often accused of the same thing.

The majority of British people are not racist and we are one of he most tolerant countries in the world, with some of he most pleasant, friendly, open people o be found anywhere.

Try to understand the real reasons for a political earthquake of 25% of the voters voting for a non-mainstream party. It indicates how much disillusion there is with the political class who do not adequately represent the people.

"Can you be the member of 2 parties at the same time?"

Oooh, I think you probably can.........Labour Party / Socialist Workers Party springs to mind

WW, yes, You can join about 10 parties if you want to. I believe UKIP is the only party which bans members who are members of BNP in their rules.

No, it doesn't. What it represents is that in times of economic hardship and political vacuum, some people will turn to the extreme right, with all of the bigotry, xenophobia, racism and outright fucking fruitloop policies that entails. It's a worrying phenomenon that has happened many times before.

However, that is not to say that all disenfranchised voters have to find the answer to their ills in racism. I myself have completely lost faith in all three major politicial parties but I would never ever vote for UKIP. Because I'm not a racist.

change is always better for some, and worse for others. this result will no doubt see the other parties ramp up their anti-immigrant and anti-immigration rhetoric to appeal to these disaffected voters.

which i guess is great, and democracy.

it makes me nervous as hell, and i can't think why i shouldn't be.

UKIP expels former BNP members

Here is a report of a former BNP councillor who switched to Labour.

www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/jun/14/localgovernment.politics

"WW, yes, You can join about 10 parties if you want to. I believe UKIP is the only party which bans members who are members of BNP in their rules."

But isn't it rather telling, that they have to?

Wallison, do you believe that having genuine concerns regarding the level of immigration into the UK makes one a de facto racist?

' I myself have completely lost faith in all three major politicial parties but I would never ever vote for UKIP. Because I'm not a racist.'

You are not a racist but you are an intolerant bigot who believes that all of the 25% of voters who walked to the polling booths and voted UKIP are racists, and yet you have probably not met any single one of them.

What are your genuine concerns, and what are they informed by?

Wallison Oswald Mosley? Talking about that today. ...PG1

'But isn't it rather telling, that they have to?'

UKIP wants stronger controls on immigration. It does not want to be smeared by progressives as having anything to do with the BNP, which is possibly why it excludes former BNP members, which it seems is not something that the Labour party does.

Well, quite.

Chipi, it makes me nervous too. Not for myself and immediate family, but because I don't want to live in a society where politicians feel they have to have racist policies in order to get votes, or where newspapers sell more copies if they have a racist agenda.

Things, when people have what they term as 'concerns about immigration' what they are really talking about is reduced quality of life for people in the UK, which are caused by multiple factors. If someone does not recognise these factors, and instead blames 'immigrants' for their life being more difficult than it might be, without proof of this, then yes they are a racist.

The father of Conservative MP, Priti Patel, was a candidate for UKIP. Do you think he would stand for a racist party?

"Mr Patel said in Ukip?s statement: ?I am proud of being a Ukip candidate and very proud of the achievements of my daughter who represents the people of Witham in an exemplary fashion."

www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/witham_mp_priti_patel_says_ukip_candidate_father_is_entitled_to_his_own_political_views_1_2176624

Calling UKIP racist is nonsense and a misunderstanding of politics.

Widowwadman, I will try to explain. I live in a small,rural market town, whose population has increased by approximately 30% , the increase accounted for,in the main,by Polish migrant workers. I have absolutely no problem with these people,per se. They are doing important work in the agricultural industry. However, we also have, bizarrely, a fairly high level of unemployment. The unemployed are,in the main, locals.

The Polish migrant workers have a brilliant work ethos, and will work all the hours God sends for NMW. The locals will not. However, this difference seems lost on the locals, who then go into full on "come over here,taking our jobs" mode.

So, resentment breeds. And festers. We, a tiny market town, have had riots,looted shops,burning police cars,the whole nine yards.

The impact of immigration has meant our local A&E is constantly packed with migrant workers, yet to register with a doctor. Waiting times increase vastly, locals become resentful.

Houses in multiple occupancy , rented to migrant workers by slumlords, contain upwards of 20 people,increased noise,rubbish,and parking disputes.Locals become resentful.

Our local council deny knowing how much social housing is occupied by migrant workers. They do not, apparently, collate this information. Locals become resentful.

I am afraid for our future, I am afraid for the future of our young people.

'I have absolutely no problem with these people,per se'

So why do you think the social housing would be occupied by migrant workers, if they're already privately renting?