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Any UKIP supporters on here? What exactly are you voting for?

798 replies

chicaguapa · 03/05/2013 07:44

I confess I don't know what the UKIP policies are, but wondered if the people voting for them could explain to me what they are please. Thanks.

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PetiteRaleuse · 03/05/2013 21:14

Claig is not a new poster. She often comes onto the political threads.

claig · 03/05/2013 21:15

UKIP even got about 25% of the vote in South Shields, a Labour stronghold. Thousands of ordinary people voted for them to send the elite a message.

Don't insult the British people by calling them racists because of the message that they wanted to send. Respect democracy, respect the people who make up our communities.

IfNotNowThenWhen · 03/05/2013 21:15

They are bigoted bus driving twats then.

claig · 03/05/2013 21:15

Thanks, Petite Smile

Wallison · 03/05/2013 21:16

If British people - or people of any nationality - vote for a racist party, then they are racists.

WidowWadman · 03/05/2013 21:18

To be fair, I think they're not only racists, but also xenophobes. I'm as blonde and blue-eyed as can be, but I don't think they'd want me here either.

claig · 03/05/2013 21:18

'If you vote for UKIP you're a racist. Who opposes women having maternity pay or indeed being employed at all if of child-bearing age.'

I voted UKIP and I am not a racist and I do not oppose maternity pay. I explained that most UKIP voters didn't read UKIP's manifesto and don't know what it says. They didn't care. They wanted to send a message that they were fed up of being ignored and that is what they achieved, with the great and the good now backtracking on calling them "clowns".

WidowWadman · 03/05/2013 21:19

"lained that most UKIP voters didn't read UKIP's manifesto and don't know what it says. They didn't care. They wanted to send a message that they were fed up of being ignored "

Why would you pay attention to someone, who can't even be arsed to find out what they're voting for?

chibi · 03/05/2013 21:21

i am an immigrant. sorry.

having a party which despises people like me win so much if the vote is interesting, to say the least.

i am sure everyone who voted for them is a fantastic human being with plenty of excellent reasons for doing so.

i am also glad my children appear white, have an english surname, a home counties accent and are nt. i am also glad i still hold a passport for my country of origin, as do my children (through ancestry, they have english blood and were born in england, don't worry)

Xenia · 03/05/2013 21:21

Maternity arguably damages women and keeps them segregated at home as unhappy little housewives and low earners. It foists them into a ghetto where they are secondary to a husband and earn at best in money.

UKIP appeals to a lot of the views of the core working class in the UK, the small business owners, the taxi drivers, the Essex men and women, the hard working low earners. However they will not win power so it will just split votes to vote for them so not much point.

claig · 03/05/2013 21:21

And they were even prepared to help the flint-faced former Communist Party members and harm their own Tory interests and values in order to have their message heard. That is why they actually went to the polls instead of not voting, in order to be heard. That is how important they felt it was. That is how much they cared about what is going on.

Viviennemary · 03/05/2013 21:23

Even David Cameron has realised that calling people muppets, idiots, fruitcakes and so on isn't the way forward. It's hardly the way to win voters back.

Wallison · 03/05/2013 21:23

Well, maybe be a bit more careful and put a bit more thought into where you put your precious X next time, eh, claig, because you've just voted for a party that wants to scrap maternity leave. And abort babies with Down's Syndrome.

WouldBeHarrietVane · 03/05/2013 21:26

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WidowWadman · 03/05/2013 21:27

Hear, hear chibi

DreamsTurnToGoldDust · 03/05/2013 21:28

People can dress it up as much as they like but the fact is people who vote UKIP are racist.

Anyone denying that clearly hasnt properly read up on who they are voting for.

claig · 03/05/2013 21:28

'Why would you pay attention to someone, who can't even be arsed to find out what they're voting for?'

Well now they are all treating these voters with respect as they see their seats under possible threat. I feel sorry for the good hardworking Tory councillors and canvassers who share the values of most of the people who switched to UKIP and who have now lost their jobs after years of service to the community. It wasn't their fault, it was the fault of their leaders who ignored their own voters.

The elite dont hold their "big conversations" with the ordinary decent people of this country, they are too busy schmoozing the media moguls and TV bosses and journalists. They ignore the people and think they know what is best for them. There is no other way for the people to register their disapproval of the people who take them for granted than by voting against them at the ballot box. And they can't bring themselves to vote for the flint-faced former communists so they voted UKIP in protest.

Wallison · 03/05/2013 21:29

^to communicate his anger to the big parties about their failings.

Couldn't he just have gone on a demo? Surely that would have been preferable to giving a vote to a racist party that hates women?

ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmmmmmmm · 03/05/2013 21:31

And abort babies with Down's Syndrome.

Except,of course,they don't.

Xenia · 03/05/2013 21:33

90% of British parents abort babies with down's by the way... so it's hardly a novel suggestion.

UKIP is the only UK party which expels BNP members I understand. I am a pro immigration person who is not a UKIP supporter but they are being a bit misrepresented on the thread.

It does not much matter as they will not win in the general election so it's just a bit of a side show.

claig · 03/05/2013 21:34

2 million people marched against the Iraq war. What good did that do them? Did teh progressives take any notice? Did they change their policy?

But when their unfortunate councillors lose their jobs and MPS fear that they may lose their seats, then they take notice and make changes.

Don't look down on ordinary people who try to have their views heard in a democracy. Even the politicos are all now saying how much they respect the voters who have shown their disapproval of them.

BoneyBackJefferson · 03/05/2013 21:35

So much matred and bigotry.

And its all from those who claim to be the voice of reason.

Wallison · 03/05/2013 21:37

The guy that said it was still on the ballot paper and was voted for by some people, as I understand it, Things.

Wallison · 03/05/2013 21:38

So UKIP (racist) voters don't claim to be 'the voice of reason' then, BoneyBack? I must have misread all of the posts from claig.

RubyGates · 03/05/2013 21:39

So how many of you that vote for the mainstream parties have read all the way through their manifestos?

Should you be barre dfrom voting from anyone until you have. Surely this would mean that all the parties would be down by about 90% of their voters?

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