The "Down with this sort of thing" picket. There is a burger van and you can wear your donkey jacket and fingerless gloves

[KatieMiddleton]

Fed up of the cuts? Fed up of the mislead bigotry? This is your sanctuary. Unwind. Vent. Pop over to the frothers thread if you feel like getting organised and doing some proactive stuff or just chill out with a cup of builders tea in a polystyrene cup.

Welcome.

Oh, I LAUGHED at the Rolls Royce example with all the tax money going to UK.

Sadly the profits are going to the German owner, BMW cause Thatcher killed off manufacturing in this country.

I really want to go on and on about this marvellous book I'm reading that expalins whyall the tories are such cunts and why the country is such a weird load of shit, but I know I'd start sounding even madder and more incoherent that usual.

Did you point that out MMe?

Oh, let the thickies just get on with it - Soon my pretties, soooon.

Strike me roan, they're a bunch of flaming' yahoos.

have done, Hully.

And very nicely too.

And that RBS bloke is as crooked as a dog's leg.

Hully - what's the name of the book you allude to?

THANK GOD YOU ASKED I THOUGHT NO ONE EVER WOULD

It's called The Making of Them - it's about boarding schools, and is also about the historical concept of the gentleman and the stranglehold on Britain and its institutions because of the psychology created therein.

Ver ver interesting.

What's that got to do with the price of eggs in china?

Brits devalue industry and idolise ownership, Alf. Our class system sees the lower classes as worthless due to lack of inherited property, but at the same time expects them to buckle down and work for the convenience of toffs.

There's more to it; it's a not a pretty sight when you look. Fortunately we haven't needed to look too closely over the past 50 years, but David & Gideon are making their superiority complex rather too apparent.

hey Alf good to see ya mate.

Remind me again, how many kids have you got now?

By the way, did you know the expression "look down on" was literally true until after World War One? The working classes were so malnourished, they were significantly shorter than the owners. This was considered evidence that the poor were an inferior sub-species. They were not thought to have feelings like posh people. (This extended to wealthy industrialists, who weren't toffs and therefore had an inferior mental & emotional composition.)

I went to a leftie boarding school.

Now I'm an adult I wonder htf my parents found it!

In fact my mum was telling me yesterday that anyone with inherited wealth or who made money very quickly/earns over a certain amount should be barred from being MPs, also that like in America you should have to be over 35 so that you have to have actually done something with your life and had a real job first. my dad was banging on about Polish people though which is a bit bloody rich since we're economic migrants

Streets, you lot are too clever for me. Kids, eh? Gotta love 'em, but jeez they can be drongoes when they think nobody's lookin'.

AND because trade is simply beyond the pale, if you can't get your wealth from land (like a true gentleman), the next best and most acceptable thing is...shares. Arms lenght you see, musn't dirty one's hands. And one's first loyalty is to one's institution, one's duty is to perpetuate it, NOT reform it..

and so on.

I agree with your mum, Te. The reason for MPs' expenses, accommodation concessions and so on was to allow ordinary people to become Members. Prior to that, only the inherently rich could afford to do it. Seems ironic that so many MPs have twisted it to make them richer.

at your dad, though

Thanks, BIWI! Hadn't seen that for ages! :)

See the wankers are off again, hiho! Needed somewhere to let rip, all it free therapy.

have turned today into one of those people who sing in ASda. I blame you lot. becuase everybody in their right mind knows it's All The Fault Of Those Lefties.

Which reminds me i own the MN Name pinkliberal; thinking I need it right now, shall go dig it out.

Well I have just read they want to allow only one claim for DLA per family now

So eitehr Harry or Sam will lose help entirely, that will be all help as their therapy etc is covered by the DLA, and the car that we use to get them home from school on snow days ' for appts etc so they won't be able to go to an SNU any more

Fuck.

Well I have just read they want to allow only one claim for DLA per family now

Can you link me to that please? I have no trouble believing you, but I want to have a link to direct people to when I inevitably get ignored or told this isn't true.

Does anyone else think they have done this particularly to reduce the number of claims made for 'invisible' disabilities, such as autism or some MH disorders, which have a statistic risk of appearing more often in a family where one member already suffers from it?

Doesn't that violate Article one of the UN declaration of Human Rights?

Article 1.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

I'm making Gin and Tonic if anyone fancies one? With lemon slices