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Too Many Cuts...come join the #Frothers and have your say

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 21:23

This is the 3rd thread in a series.

It is for people who are horrified, frustrated and downright sad at the erosion of human rights with respect to how this country is being run, just now and in the recent past

it is apolitical in nature, but of course due to many recent initiatives by the recent govt, there will be rants against our current "leaders"

please join in

I shall post the link to the old threads, our "Too Many Cuts #Frothers" blog that is attracting a lot of widespread attention and a little bit of what we are about in a moment

OP posts:
CardyMow · 08/12/2011 00:34

Font - that was what USED to happen, until a couple of years ago, with Income Support - it's WHY the maintenance disregard was brought in by labour, after much lobbying from PWC groups...

So they are going back to that, but not only that, they will TAKE £55 of UC away - but only pay OUT £48.50 (ish) TO the PWC. So not only do they NOT gain anything - they are ACTIVELY LOSING ££ (not actual figures, too frothed out to go back and look).

The sum total is the Government TOTALLY SCREWING Lone Parents - EVEN THOSE WHO WORK WHO WOULD HAVE GOT TAX CREDITS CURRENTLY.

AngryAngryAngry

CardyMow · 08/12/2011 00:35

I'm going to froth away to bed now, before I have a froth-related anyeurism!

Miaowww · 08/12/2011 06:23

Just checking in on the new thread. Feeling a bit useless at the moment - really want to contribute in a more active way but snowed under at work. Ironically we have so many staff out with stress due to the effects of the cuts or resigning and not being replaced, it means that those of us left are doing several people's work and have very little time or energy for frothing. Which is all very convenient for the people who want us to just shut up, get on with it and stop moaning. If I hear one more person say I should be grateful to have a job....Roll on the end of term.

Miaowww · 08/12/2011 06:27

Of course I know I should be grateful to have a job, didn't want to sound ungrateful. I know loads of people are out of work and struggling to find anything, including my DH. I just don't think that line should be used as an excuse for eroding working conditions. Anyway, keep up the good work - I will be frothing away at work.

RatherBeOnThePiste · 08/12/2011 07:28

Hunty - am really struggling to know what to say here - but I cannot believe that this will be allowed to happen. It is extraordinarily unfair. Have also been reading on the Gingerbread site Hug for you.

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 08/12/2011 07:29

working all day today...will check in this evening

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MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 07:36

Hunty
That is disgraceful. I will have a hunt through the old thread for that link. Are you going to write a post on it?

Whoever said (I think it was Shirley) that we should ensure that those who write for the blog are personally affected by that issue. Those (like me) who are less affected can write generally frothy stuff.

The message is most powerful with examples of actual lives. I think this is where Labour goes wrong.

Tories (or their press) are always digging out benefit cheats to plaster all over the papers. Labour is not good at putting a human face on the cuts, I think.

MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 07:50

I know, it is the DM but interesting all the same.

Love the way he is painted as the saviour of the poor.

Luminescence · 08/12/2011 08:20

I'd like to commend 38 degrees to the Frothers. Very successful campaigning on recent issues, they have a Facebook page.

Luminescence · 08/12/2011 08:24

38 degrees

lubeybaublely · 08/12/2011 08:34

Hunty I am frothing more than ever

Under all the plans for universal credit, I personally stand to lose £400 A MONTH even though I'll be working 40 MORE hours a month to meet the new earnings/hours thresholds

I am really quite upset now, not just frothing.

Single parents are going to get HAMMERED whether working or not as it affects those receiving ESA, JSA, Income support AND Tax Credits.

400 a month loss for working more. WELL FUCKING THANK YOU!

Is there time to get this stopped? have the lord approved this fucking unreal baseball bat to beat us with?

lubeybaublely · 08/12/2011 08:34

House of Lords* even

FUCKS SAKE I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THIS

TeWiharaMeriKirihimete · 08/12/2011 08:37

The worst bit from UC is it's shift in focus IMO - will be back later and explain a bit more.

MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 08:44

Right. We need a blog post on this.

And we must have a snappy title and get it out there and make some noise.

Hunty
Do you have time to write it? If you could, and use some examples like you did on the CSA thread, cause that makes it REAL for people.

We need to scare the shit out of some people to get them to protest against this. And for those not affected, we need to highlight the unfairness, and how much money people will be losing.

lubeybaublely · 08/12/2011 08:46

I could write one MmeLindor, or contribute to one including the vast losses from a working single parents view.

MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 08:49

Can you link to the UC paper that Hunty was talking about? I cannot find the link.

You know what, it is such an important issue, it would be great to have two (or more) viewpoints on this.

lubeybaublely · 08/12/2011 08:50

Can anyone help me find the thread - the one that explained the new earnings/ hours thresholds for Universal Credit?

I remember working out at the time I'd need to work ten more hours a week to cover what I'd be losing. Didn't know at the time that I'd be losing Maintenance too. Fucking hell.

I'd like to look at the new guidelines again so I can calculate exact figures for a blog post. But I'm too upset and frothing too much to try and think sensibly how to find the thread.

lubeybaublely · 08/12/2011 08:51

Yes Mme I think it should at least be a dual post from me and Hunty, more if anyone else would like to add their example.

MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 08:55

We need people to look at the blog and think, "Bloody hell, this affects me too".

Have a few interested Gransnetters who are going to pop over today.

MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 09:05

I cannot find the thread you mean, Lubey, but did find this linked

Welfare Reform Bill

Will have a quick google and see if anyone else is writing about this

MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 09:30

I just tweeted to John Prescott to ask him to look at our blog and do a guest post #cheeky

If you aren't following him on Twitter, do so. He is good fun. And he actually replies to people.

Hullygully · 08/12/2011 09:34

I am trying to write a blog post, but it keeps turning into a giant generalised froth...

lubeybaublely · 08/12/2011 09:38

I found it

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1340209-To-think-every-SAHM-low-hour-PT-worker-and-carer-should-read-this

But in my enraged froth, I can't find the relevant bits about the changes and the other links, I think they might have been on the previous thread that the OP got removed

FROTH FROTH FROTH CRY

TeWiharaMeriKirihimete · 08/12/2011 09:40

Does anyone have anything for today btw? If not I will throw mine up...

lubeybaublely · 08/12/2011 09:41

IT'S GOING TO THE HOUSE OF LORDS ON THE 12TH DECEMBER - theres STILL TIME to oppose this

We need to get people writing to their MP's - or do you have to find a lord to write to?

FUCKING FUCK