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Too Many Cuts...come join the #Frothers and have your say

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 21:23

This is the 3rd thread in a series.

It is for people who are horrified, frustrated and downright sad at the erosion of human rights with respect to how this country is being run, just now and in the recent past

it is apolitical in nature, but of course due to many recent initiatives by the recent govt, there will be rants against our current "leaders"

please join in

I shall post the link to the old threads, our "Too Many Cuts #Frothers" blog that is attracting a lot of widespread attention and a little bit of what we are about in a moment

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FontSnob · 07/12/2011 22:49

But mme, would she give us a murry mint afterwards?

TeWiharaMeriKirihimete · 07/12/2011 22:50

Mme - how rude! How come the GN get moderated more heavily than us then? Do they not behave themselves impeccably the way we do? Wink

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 22:55

I prefer a Werther's myself...

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FontSnob · 07/12/2011 22:59
Xmas Grin

This is a great blog left foot forward

A few of us are following them on twitter already.

I never really understood the point of twitter until now.

MmeLindor. · 07/12/2011 22:59

They must be awfully naughty, the GNetters.

lol at Murray Mints.

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 23:07

serious now for a moment

this is a brilliant article posted on here before, but may have not been seen by everyone in the mad crush of these threads

a real feminist angle "Women in Britain are fed up"

please read it

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FontSnob · 07/12/2011 23:13

Legal aid for dealing with custody cases, relationship breakdowns, school expulsions, immigration and victims of clinical negligence will no longer be available.

Froth.

NormaSparklerFlashBangAhhh · 07/12/2011 23:14

Marking place again

FontSnob · 07/12/2011 23:18

Maybe, in this instance, the UK would like to look to Europe and learn a thing or two from Belgium and Portugal's example, as, in Britain, 33 per cent of a family's net income is spent on childcare. This has resulted in a situation where it actually doesn't make sense for thousands of parents to return to work because they are financially worse off - I know, it took me a while to get my head around that one too. The fact that thousands are not able to go back to work has contributed to 1.07 million women out of work - the highest level for 23 years. Guess who was in power then, too?

Double froth

FontSnob · 07/12/2011 23:20

Interesting leaked memo

MmeLindor. · 07/12/2011 23:28

ok, I am all frothed out and off to bed. G'night and thanks for the froth.

carernotasaint · 07/12/2011 23:29

Forget Gary Barlow hes a Tory supporter.
A few months ago i was watching old episodes of Drop the Dead Donkey on youtube. Being simply curious i looked up information on some of the actors on the net to see what they are doing now.
The actor who played Dave is called Neil Pearson and he was brought up by a single parent.
i found an old interview that i think he did in 1998 and he gets quite angry and animated when single parents unfairly get blamed for what the elite deem to be wrong with society. (he and i would get on quite well.) I think he would be really supportive if he wanted to get involved. I reckon he would be shocked at the CSA thing and some of the other "policies" that havent been publicised or just wilfully ignored by most of the media.

GrumpyCrossPatch · 07/12/2011 23:30

Well that'll teach me to do my own research rather than rely on mates! Social Attitudes Research from July 2010, not July 2009, hence newsworthiness... Blush. Guess agenda is that Cameron thinks he was right all along. God am thick sometimes. There's just so much stuff to digest and think about and worry over.

carernotasaint · 07/12/2011 23:33

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Pearson

MmeLindor. · 07/12/2011 23:35

Am consumed with Schadenfreude by the thought of David Smarmeron being hoisted on his own petard by EU backbenchers. Thought I would share that with you.

HedleyLamarr · 07/12/2011 23:44

AnyFucker that article needs to be read. I posted it on another thread and got ignored. Never mind.

TeWihara, thanks for sending me the doc. You know by now I've read it and replied. Btw, it's a belter. Look out for it on the blog people.

Time to hit my scratcher too.

HedleyLamarr · 07/12/2011 23:50

Great links from MmeLindor and FontSnob.

Have I said before I think I love you lot..?

KateFrothers · 07/12/2011 23:51

Checking in. Have had to do RL so have been in a froth free zone. Although I did make my mum who's an ex-teacher read the Gove article!

CardyMow · 07/12/2011 23:51

This I have just found buried in a doc that was linked to at the end of the last thread (I think).

This. THIS. THE FUCKING FUCKING FUCKERS.

Some income,
such as maintenance payments from former partners (which are
particularly important for lone parents), currently does not count as
income for the purpose of tax credits._ This income will be considered as_
income under the system of Universal Credit, and therefore will reduce
entitlement pound-for-pound.

So if your Ex-partner pays you £55 a week maintenance now - you get to keep all of it. Even at the worst, you were allowed to keep £10, and then £20 of it. Now you will lose every penny PLUS have to pay the CSA a fee. WTactualF. And obviously, like the old CSA system, if your Ex-P is MEANT to pay £55 a week, but DOESN'T - YOU AS THE PWC WILL LOSE THAT £55 A WEEK PLUS THE CSA FEES.

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 23:53

Yes, hed, now stop dribbling

have a mince pie instead

hello and g'bye kate , I am off to bed now

I am awaiting permission to reveal the identiry of the prisoner in my inbox. She must be asleep in there for now. Back tomozzzzzzzzzzz x

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CardyMow · 08/12/2011 00:03

And, I'll bet, that being ABLE to have a private agreement, even if you are on means-tested beneifts (as you currently can) will be withdrawn, and it will revert back to how it USED to be, so that if you want to claim UC, you will HAVE to (be forced to, like you used to be with Income Support) use the CSA (or CMEC as it will be). Which would mean that you will be FORCED to pay their fucking daylight robbery from children fees.

I can't find any evidence of it YET - but if I don't come across some sooner or later, I will eat my own shorts. It was the previous Tory government who made it MANDATORY to use the CSA in the past, it was the previous Tory Governmant who tried to charge £44 a year fee for using the CSA in the past (which was abandoned as an abject failure, even by THAT Government). So if this one is bringing back the fees without the MANDATORY use fo the CSA for people getting UC - I'd be bloody amazed!

Luminescence · 08/12/2011 00:09

I'm feeling very scared about the next three and a half years considering the damage that has been done in the last 18 months.

FontSnob · 08/12/2011 00:13

Hunty, am I reading that wrong, or does that not make CSA payments pointless? Doesn't that give the NRP who doesn't want to pay, the perfect excuse not to bother? Am I being really thick?

FontSnob · 08/12/2011 00:18

And obviously, like the old CSA system, if your Ex-P is MEANT to pay £55 a week, but DOESN'T - YOU AS THE PWC WILL LOSE THAT £55 A WEEK PLUS THE CSA FEES.

So if they aren't paying, they will reduce the UC as if they were??

Fuck me.

carernotasaint · 08/12/2011 00:20

The news on this stuff gets worse and worse by the hour. FUCKING HELL.