Cameron's bloody awful too, isn't he?

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Just saying.

Yes, that;s right. UEA and nowhere else have made the case for climate change.

Jeez.

I know the difference between lies, damned lies and global warming. But that is another issue.

'Yes, that;s right. UEA and nowhere else have made the case for climate change.'

Have the emails at these other places been released?

I should image Labour HQ, if they read the Daily Mail, do so with their heads in their hands at the fact that they have to convince an electorate of which a proportion is so terminally thick as to read the Daily Mail.

Climate change a better term, maybe?

I have no idea. But do you seriously think that it's only the UEA who understand that global climate change is a real thing?

No I think the sceptics understand it better.

But I think the UAE was one of the top 3 or 4 places in the world dealing with it, if I remember rightly, but can't google it.

It does make sense that a Daily Mail reader would understand climate change better than the world's leading scientists, certainly. I'd still kinda like to hear what they've got to say, though. But that's just me I s'pose.

and somehow it all loops around to a supra national issue
let us deal with what is going on here now

this government success and possible re election hinges on the economy improving, keeping an eye on that one

I agree that there is excess of red tape but complete lack of regulation obviously is not the answer, but neither is just box ticking, and look at the banks (we create wealth leave us alone) and the papers ( it is not about freedom of the press)

It wasn't excess of red tape that created the financial problems, afaik. Rather too little regulation of the banks.

sfxmum, you're right. I think they will succeed in turning teh economy round. The cuts will be hard for the first two years, then will be eased up because they will win teh next election too. Yes, we definitely need regulation of teh banks, the media and lots else. But we need teh right regulation, not things that prevent the people and businesses prospering.

Yes, we needed Osborne's Bank of England regulation rather than Gordon Brown's "light touch" tripartite regulation. Fortunately, we have now got that.

It's good to see that Lord Turnbull, Blair's ex Cabinet Secretary, seems to agree with the switched on Daily Mail readership

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001189/Ministers-fall-climate-folly-warns-ex-Civil-Service-chief.html

mellow yes I agree in case it was not clear, the banks needed far more regulation

claig I don't really think their medicine will result in a healthy country
many have argues that Thatcher did what was necessary to move the country forward but really a lot of what she did sowed the seeds for what we see now

All the arguments pro Dave are tremendously entertaining, but I'd just like to clarify that in my view, he truly isn't charismatic. At all.

sfxmum, you're right, Thatcher did a lot wrong. Many of teh porivatisations were wrong, but of course teh socialists never overturned them. They all really follow the same one agenda, hidden by lots of spin. It comes down to who is worse, who will remove most freedoms and liberties, who has policies that will lead to poverty, stagnation and sustainability instead of growth and prosperity. I think, behind the spin and the lies, we all know the answer.

I've seen more charisma in offal and more substance in a puddle.

skirt, I have one question for you. Is he more charismatic than Brown and Miliband? I rest my case.

I'll give you the charisma. They did have substance though, and they made sure they knew their subject unlike Cameron.

Hurrah, both his eyes work well and he doesn't have a lisp! I feel safe!

'they made sure they knew their subject unlike Cameron'

is that why they left the note saying, sorry "there's no money left". They now say it was a joke, but the people don't find it funny as their services and jobs are being cut because of it.

on no darling that is not charisma please next you will say that Osborne is a sex god of something

claig.... did you not see Cameron utterly floundering when Milliband challenged him on welfare reforms for those receiving treatment for Cancer?

This is relating to the sick and the disabled, a group he's expressed an interest in prior to the election, but all he had was a pack provided by his researchers and he didn't know anything himself at all.... If a debate is going to be had on specific subjects then surely he should know his onions?

Oh enough already with the note! someone was feeling bitter and they felt like handing on a poisoned chalice! The jobs are being cut because the Tories are cunts, that's all.

Sex God is pushing it, but monetary God is understating it