Cameron's bloody awful too, isn't he?

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Just saying.

claig, that note was a J-O-K-E

We know he is a toff, but I have seen no arrogance about him at all. During the election he stayed up all night, spoke to all types of workers, even when he must have known that the election was in the bag. His speeches sound sincere. He seems to be doing it for the country, not just for a small clique. Of course, it is easy to be fooled. I was initially fooled by the 'straight kinda guy' Blair, but soon realised I had been conned. Cameron doesn't wring his hands in rehearsed fashion, he doesn't use Blair's thespian pauses. So far he looks sincere.

'claig, that note was a J-O-K-E'

Gideon wasn't laughing and nor were the public. Maybe it was just Labour party humour.

Gideon's an oik. He won't have got it.

What does 'sort out the monetary situation' mean, Claig? If it meant fund the NHS, give back the benefits to the people who need them, fund higher education - then I would vote for him like a shot. Possibly

No "inapproprite conversations"?????

Purleeeesssee!!!

Must be wetting himself about new allegations.

Sorry - who's Gideon?

Osborne, Mellow - he dropped the Gideon in favour of George while at school (I think) - in order to seem less of a prat I think (epic fail)

No you are right, Mellow, he won't be able to wave a magic wand, he will have to make cuts because of the dire financial situation. However, he has made certain U-turns already e.g. forestry etc. and I think some of the rhetoric is intended to make the markets believe that the cuts will be severe, but U-turns will possibly be made. There is no panacea, Labour would also have made similar cuts, that's why we have ex-Labour ministers like Lord Hutton working with the government. The Coalition isn't perfect, but he is the best we have.

yup.

Becarooo, you're right, there are always certain scandals etc., but even if there was an inappropriate conversation about BSkyB, I doubt that the public would think it was as serious as taking the country to war on a lie.

Remember that some MPs tried to impeach Blair.

I disapprove of his policies and I dislike the Conservatives. I disagree the Coalition's approach to the deficit. Am a Labour member.

However - if I were a Tory I wouldn't have an issue with Dave as leader. He has charisma, he has a certain charm, he has leadership qualities. He may be wrong in what he says and does, but as a political leader he has ability - for example, I have no doubt he'll emerge from the NoTW/Coulson shenanigans unscathed and through sheer force of personality.

Ah. Thanks, Ponders.

Claig, it's all the same thing. It all boils down to who can manipulate us most effectively.

Yes he has charisma, he is likeable. The majority of the public do not dislike him personally.

Agree, Hassled.

Yes, we are always manipulated and spun. But teh public saw through teh Labour spin machine with its retinue of spinners, pagers and prompters and spokespeople speaking from teh notes written on teh back of their hands. Cameron isn't like that, nor are Gove, Osborne, Hunt and all the rest. They tell it straight, even though they receive lots of hostility from the opposition. They are always polite. Hunt was very gracious even after some BBC presenters mispronounced his name on air twice on the same day.

It has similarities to the note reportedly left by the Conservative Reggie Maudling to Labour's Jim Callaghan when he became chancellor in 1964, which said: "Sorry to leave it in such a mess."

Mr Byrne was reported as having said the letter was meant as a joke. But he told the BBC he was just using the language that everyone in that job used eventually.

copied from the Beeb

Interesting MissFenella, I didn't know that about Reggie Maudling.

Hunt was on the radio the other morning being interviewed by Evan Davies and he said to Evan "Thank you for pronouncing my name correctly". No airs, no graces, just wants to get on with the job of serving the country.

Don't forget that Miliband told teh teachers and other strikers that striking was not the right thing to do. For all their pretend rhetoric, we all know what Labour are like, we saw them scrapping civil liberties for 13 years. The Coalition have turned the ship around, wrested the controls from the Labour captain and are steering us back to freedom and prosperity. It'll be a bumpy ride, but we will get there.

They're all millionaires, they could all quite easily put their feet up. They don't need all the vitriol and abuse, but they endure it all because they believe they are helping the country and the people.

On to the rocks more like! Oh ho ho ...

Or because they want to fend off any attacks from the peasants?

''They're all millionaires, they could all quite easily put their feet up. They don't need all the vitriol and abuse, but they endure it all because they believe they are helping the country and the people''

oh bless them and their noble souls, I suppose they are our betters too