Anti-Catholic feelings

[StrictlyKatty]

I'm pretty exhuasted right now with all the Anti-Catholic feeling on MN

A week never seems to go by without a thread about how Catholics should all feels ashamed about abuse (which we all do!) and how the Catholic Church should disband, that all Priests are kiddy fiddlers etc

Then, which really drives me mad, people with their threads about how to fake religion to get into Catholic school

There is now a thread about how frigging funny it is to see the Pope on a condom. I do wonder how funny people would find Mohammad on a sauasge... not very is my bet! Why can't respect for peoples religion be extended to Catholics?

I just wish people would understand that while noone feels that the RC church doesn't have a lot to apologise for it is not 100% rotten, the Pope isn't a Nazi and not every Priest signed up to spend time alone with little boys

DH thinks I should rise above it, but it hurts me! It has just made me cry seeing all the horrible things people have said about the church today.
Am I alone

"In fact only 25% of abuse cases have been reported as happening within the last decade. Rightly or wrongly it is very hard to prosecute for things which
happened 10 years ago. Can you imagine the conviction rates for abuse in this country of the majority of crimes were not reported for a decade?? It's horribly
low as it is without the adding presure of a decade or more of lost evidence." Oh that's alright then. The crimes weren't reported for deckades so let's kid people that it's best not to prosicute because of the added pressure of lack of evidence.

I wonder why the crimes weren't reported for so long? Nothing at all to do with intimidation of course.

"You can't catch aids or sexually transmitted infections if you only have sex with one partner (ie your spouse)."

Can I just point out that this is completely and utterly wrong?

Even if I have only ever had sex with my husband, that matters not a jot if he shags a prostitute on the way back from work every night.

Do you honestly believe that? Not seriously?

If it hadn't come out they would have carried on as normal.I would be very about any church were a large number of its leaders particularly chose that 'vocation' because of the access it afforded them to vulnerable children.They have been rumbled

Are you fucking joking SK???

He could have handed them over to the police and they could have investigated the claims.

It's their job

Oops - that was to StriclyKatty. The Heathen of Surburbia is of course quite correct...

S'OK, TFM, I figured out what you meant

quite heathen, also on a continent like Africa where millions of children are infected with HIV at birth (due to parents already being infected), through transfusions etc means that even if you did only have one sexual partner, there's still a pretty high chance (one in four in some countries) that that one sexual partner already has HIV and you could become infected.

They knew that people would jump ship and their freeloading based on fear and corruption would be curtailed and that is exactly what is happening.It is not only the many who will leave the church but the future generations who won't ever give it the time of day that will be worrying them

and sk, I find it quite interesting that you started this thread for support and then went on to confirm just what it is about the catholic church that people dislike.

Sk

Let me ask you a question. If a headmaster knew that a teacher had been accused of paedophilia and instead of reporting them (for fear of damaging his schools reputation) just passed them on to another school to work, would you be happy with that? Because that is EXACTLY what the Pope has done.

Don't defend the indefensible.
You can still be a Catholic and be disgusted with it's leaders

StrictlyKatty

YOU ARE NOT ALONE. I do keep crying as well.

A lot of mumsnetters are highly hypocritical. They are on and on about their dislike of Daily Hate ( Mail) but honestly the nickname fits mumsnet perfectly IMO.

One thing to criticise, we all do it and are entitled. But the obnoxious language, the hideous ridicule and hateful tone... Shame on you fellow human beings, honestly.

StrictlyKatty, I have it worse,though, I'm Catholic AND Polish. Sometimes I feel like the most hated person in Britain and I'm just a normal good natured person, mother just going about everyday business like anyone.
( I'm not suggesting there is bashing of the Poles here on MN, but enough on other sites and in RL ).

The Catholic bashing on MN is horrendous, though , just truly horrendous.

Why, oh why, do I keep coming back, stupid Mumsnet addiction. I do try to avoid this type of threads but get tempted sometimes and get very upset and regret it. I so wish sometimes noone invented internet, I always knew some people hated the Catholic church but obviously never had to feel like someone is spitting in my face. Mumsnet does just that

Honestly, I would be on the next plane to Poland if only possible, but have been here 15 years and the move would seriously disrupt the lives of my children, the eldest especially, as he is in the middle of his GCSEs and also madly in love with his English girlfriend...

But sooooooo regret not doing it earlier when children were young. Britain has became a horrible place to live in.

I seldom encounter anti-Catholic feeling in real life, only on here. I think it's because in real life people see you going about your life, trying to be a good person and do your best for your general community. They see your children, your extended family, etc, and they realise that you are a person like them, with feelings.

I don't think anyone in RL would tell me I was condoning paedophilia. That's a been a privilege unique to my membership of MN.

Well it's not a secret among our friends and wider circle that we are Catholics. We are not ashamed of it (though we don't tend to have religious conversations with people we always answer questions when they come up). I have yet to have a friend or acquaintance look me in the eye and tell me I am a paedophile-enabler.

That is not good, Riven.

I always hope that my friends will see me as I really am and judge me by my actions and draw their own conclusions as to just how 'awful' my religion must be.

Daisymeadow, can you just highlight this 'obnoxious language' and 'hateful tone' etc that you are complaining about?

No-one has been lumping all Catholics together and saying you're all paedophile-enablers. (AFAIK)
On the million-and-one threads about the Catholic sex abuse cases, there have been many Catholics reflective and free-thinking enough to say, 'wow, I am really disappointed in my church, and I'm taking a long hard look at whether this is something I want to be involved in' And it's obviously very painful for them.

But on the same threads, there are people saying, 'this is all just Catholic-bashing', 'you wouldn't do this to any other religion'; which makes us outsiders think you're not really appreciating the scale of the problem and cover-up.

And, "Gathering evidence takes time which is why the Pope has tried to do things behind closed doors so people are not judged for things they have not yet been proven guilty of a crime."
It takes 20 years to gather evidence of a crime?! Sorry, but that just comes across as making excuses.

Yes, Riven, but if the Spanish Inquisition came up in conversation and your Catholic friend said 'Oh, that was blown out of all proportion, just Catholic bashing, the church tried very hard to act in a moral way...' etc, you might find room for a bit of a , no?

This is all very sad

Just all hold it and think about it.

wannabe can I just say, seriously it's DECADE not DECKADE

Then I will say I never ever said they should be prosecuted, only that when it has taken 30 years for someone to say something you cannot expect an instant trial, it will take a long time to gain evidence from something that happened 30 years ago. I don't know how you cannot see that. I'm sure noone wants to see innocent people vilified that is why the Church looks for actually evidence you know that thing they use in law to actually make it fair

I'm sure people like you would have them all hung whether they had found evidence or not.

daisymeadow believe me I have had times when I have thought how nice it would be to live in a country like Poland which still has respect for religion and Catholics aren't all branded Paedophiles.

Heathen would you like to know how long it takes the Police to put together a murder trial for a murder that has happened this week, 2 years on average. Therefore can you not see that when there is much less physical evidence ie: a dead body and all other physical evidence would have been lost 30 years ago it might take time to actually find evidence to make a case?

Do you actually understand how the law works?

Noddy less than 1% of Catholic priests have ever been accused of abuse. Don't make out that the majority of Priests chose to become Priests to abuse children as that is simply not true. There are bad people less, they will be punished, but they are in no way the majority.