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Anti-Catholic feelings

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StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 19:25

I'm pretty exhuasted right now with all the Anti-Catholic feeling on MN

A week never seems to go by without a thread about how Catholics should all feels ashamed about abuse (which we all do!) and how the Catholic Church should disband, that all Priests are kiddy fiddlers etc

Then, which really drives me mad, people with their threads about how to fake religion to get into Catholic school

There is now a thread about how frigging funny it is to see the Pope on a condom. I do wonder how funny people would find Mohammad on a sauasge... not very is my bet! Why can't respect for peoples religion be extended to Catholics?

I just wish people would understand that while noone feels that the RC church doesn't have a lot to apologise for it is not 100% rotten, the Pope isn't a Nazi and not every Priest signed up to spend time alone with little boys

DH thinks I should rise above it, but it hurts me! It has just made me cry seeing all the horrible things people have said about the church today.
Am I alone

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iloveasylumseekers · 25/04/2010 20:33

You might need to go on a Catholic forum tbh. Another forum I'm a member of had to remove the religion forum because there was so much ill-will on all sides.

TwatthewWright · 25/04/2010 20:34

Well, I suppose this is what happens when you look for support on a public internet chatroom. Wouldn't a RL church group be more appropriate?

Feel free to take the piss out of my previous terrible grammatical error: hear/here - type in haste repent at leisure!

I originally commentedd on the "no-one would mock the muslims" and the popes face on a condom is equal to mohammed on a sausage and was then drawn into things more than I had intended.

I haven't actually said what I think about religion because it probably would offend you and I have no need to do so.

PinkFluffyslippers · 25/04/2010 20:38

Hey, Strictly,
I just wanted to come and give you some support. Have a unMN HUG. I'm also getting fed up with lots of anti Catholic comments everywhere and I'm sorry that you're having a tough time on this thread which I think should be deemed a safe area.

( I'm a v v lapsed Catholic but I have respect for people of all faiths and none.)

At the moment I'm fairly peed off with the Foreign Office joke memo. Fine - if these junior civil servants had written this in the pub, but apparently this was the result of a brain storming session carried out at the tax payer's expense. Grr - haven't they got anything better to do with their time? If a memo had been written about any other religious reader then no one would have found it funny.

ANyways - take care.
PFS

StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 20:40

I have plenty of support from my Church group Twatthew. However as a regular MN user I was hoping to see if anyone on here felt the same as me.

People use MN for support all the time. Did people say to SpookyCharlotte 'oh why don't you bloody well go and ask a Doctor' when she posted about the pain she was having? No. Because most people on here are lovely human beings and want to help people and offer them support when they need it.

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LynetteScavo · 25/04/2010 20:43

Why should StricklyKatty only look for support on a specific forum, or in a RL church group?

I think it's important that people know people of any religion feel when their religion is "bashed"

StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 20:44

Thank you pinkfluffy.

I agree, what a terrible waste of tax payer money!

The thing is I wish Catholicism was given that basic human level of respect that other religions in this country are offered. Catholics are all tarred with the same brush in a way which would be totally unacceptable of any other religion or country.

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PinkFluffyslippers · 25/04/2010 20:45

Hear hear to the last two posts.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/04/2010 20:46

StrictlyKatty, I feel the same way, but I'm afraid I just don't have the energy for these threads atm so in general am staying away from them.

StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 20:48

Exactly Lynette. Would someone say to a mother whose child had died of SIDS 'oh you should really just go to COTS?' I really hope not! But MN isn't the place for support apparently

I thought the point of the different sections was that there was room for everyone? That when people wanted support there were places for it, when people wanted a flaming there was AIBU...

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differentID · 25/04/2010 20:49

I too am tired of this huge anti-Catholic sentiment.

If I were so inclined to say so, it goes as far as religious hatred.

StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 20:50

ohyoubad believe it or not I was feeling the same which is why I started this thread! I was hoping for a wee rest

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TwatthewWright · 25/04/2010 20:50

Oh here we go.

You have been trying to make this a personal thing from the start whilst I was staying on topic; the thread title being Anti-catholic feelings.

You keep referring to my motives and questioning why I'm on here and at one point telling me I shouldn't be on here as this is (incorrectly) the religion section, despite you having no idea whatsover what religious beliefs I have other than they are not yours.

You even accused me of stalking you for gods sake!

This is a public chatroom where people can express whatever they like so long as they are not abusive. I haven't said anything personal about you, but here you are, the good christian saying that I am a disrespectful, none lovely person who doesn't support and help people simply because I am not saying what you want to hear (phew, I used the correct here/hear that time).

PinkFluffyslippers · 25/04/2010 20:52

Strictly - I totally agree with you that all religions should be afforded the basic human right of respect. Respect for all religions and all MNers opinions. But I guess it's difficult to erase 500 years of anti-Catholic prejudice..... blame Henry VIII.

BTW I don't think the Catholic faith has a monopoly on child abuse, sadly this horrible crime exists in society and I'm sure followers of other faiths (and none) have committed this heinous crime.

LynetteScavo · 25/04/2010 20:52
Biscuit
TwatthewWright · 25/04/2010 20:53

OMG! did someone on here compare needing support for ones religious beliefs to coping with SIDS, now that is outrageous!

StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 20:55

I never said you shouldn't be on here. I questioned why someone who has just started a thread to mock the Pope would feel the need to come over to this section to continue their attack on a new thread which was looking for support rather than an arguement.

I didn't start a new AIBU thread for a reason.

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StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 20:58

I commented as well you can read, that people come on here for support a lot and are not told to toddle off to their Church groups!

I find it very patrionizing that you feel the need to tell me where I would best be suited. I would NEVER tell anyone else that if they wanted support they should have to go elsewhere. If I could help, I would try to.

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onagar · 25/04/2010 21:03

StrictlyKatty, I'm sorry you are feeling unhappy, but you are always claiming that catholics get criticised and that no one says anything about muslims, jews etc and you never listen when people say that just isn't true.

I might have let it pass this time if not for amidaiwish's atrocious remark.

You've got Riven there. Ask her if it's only your religion that gets talked about. Ask the Jews.

Your OP wasn't too bad, but further on there's talk of catholic bashing and religious hatred.

Hands up all the Catholics who think we should NOT be furious about the child abuse.

Hands up anyone who thinks we should drop the matter to spare the feelings of catholics.

LynetteScavo · 25/04/2010 21:05

StricklyKatty, I don't think there is much point in you posting further on this thread atm, while certain other posters are going to keep wading in.

You aren't alone if feeling how you do, but I think there just don't happen to be many Catholic posters around right now.

StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 21:08

I don't believe that for a second! I am furious, disappointed and broken hearted about what has happened in the Church. I am glad the Pope will be apologising to all the countries he goes to, I believe that will be the first small step in the road to gaining people's trust again.

However, I do believe that Catholicism should still be treated with the same respect as other religions and attacking the Pope and calling him a Nazi with no evidence to back it up is just bigotry.

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TheFallenMadonna · 25/04/2010 21:09

I'm not especially exercised by any supposed anti-catholic feeling on MN. I go on a fair number of threads where religion in general is rubbished, and I don't have a problem with them either really. I quite enjoy them, although I think they are somewhat pointless.

I am horrified at the child abuse revelations, and can quite see why the Catholic church is having a hard time. It deserves it IMO. A harder time than it is having in fact.

The school thing doesn't bother me at all, but then I don;t agree with faith schools myself.

StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 21:11

You are probably right Lynette. It does just make me very sad that people come on MN and find support when they have suffered terrible loss, have serious health problems, have suffered domestic abuse etc. Yet I have been told I should go to my 'Church group' as this is not the place for my type of support

Very sad indeed.

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notnearlyasblondasiwas · 25/04/2010 21:15

StrictlyKatty - also fed up of the anti-catholic feeling floating round at the moment. I am sick of defending myself and my faith, so now have a new rule. I will not be drawn into discussions with people who are just trying to get a rise out of me. I am more than happy to answer genuine questions, but am no longer open for ear bashing. So next time someone starts, either in real life (like to dickhead who puts anti-catholic leaflets under our windscreen wipers whilst we are at mass or in the hymn books!!!!) or online, I am just going to feel sorry for their ignorance and say a prayer for them!

StrictlyKatty · 25/04/2010 21:31

People actually put things in your hymn books

I wish I could just accept that some people are ignorant and don't care about the feelings of others, but I'm not quite there yet! It does annoy me because I know plenty of Catholics that are not the evil, kiddy fiddling types that people make out but noone cares about the majority.

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daftpunk · 25/04/2010 21:40

SK;

You have my support,

Tbh, I ignore all the catholic bashing threads, the people who post on them are pathetic idiots (imo) but they have a right to their opinion. Ironically, some of the people who call all catholics child abusers will call me a troll for just for talking about immigration....? ?

Work that one out...

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