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Lily Philips - can she be a 'true' Christian?

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mids2019 · 01/08/2026 09:56

https://www.premierchristianity.com/opinion/lily-phillips-has-been-baptised-i-pray-its-accompanied-by-change/20772.article

This article made me think about what it means to be Christian especially about the concepts of sin, judgment and redemption.

In my view Lily of course is a Christian being baptised but to not give up a lucrative adult film career possibly does cause angst amongst more traditional Christians.

We are taught not to judge 'Let those without sin cast the first stone' and to accept the universal unconditionally of forgiveness. (We pray every day about the forgiveness of sin) so it is difficult thologically to condemn others.

However does any fellow Christian need to remind Lily she makes money from a profession where many women with less choice are coerced and manipulated for thr gratification of men? Wr have moved away from a less judgmental Christianity but how do you view participation in Christian life with such a job?

LP Baptism

Lily Phillips has been baptised. I pray it's accompanied by change

The baptism of a pornographic actress has caused controversy, but the real question isn't whether Lily Phillips' sins are too great for God's grace - it's whether she truly understands what repentance means, says Lois McLatchie-Miller

https://www.premierchristianity.com/opinion/lily-phillips-has-been-baptised-i-pray-its-accompanied-by-change/20772.article

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Parker231 · 10/08/2026 12:37

GentleSheep · 10/08/2026 11:34

You will not be saved if you reject Christ's offer of redemption. He is the only one who will save you. There's no 'Christian system'. Once Jesus returns as King then He will rule over His Kingdom with an iron rod. Those who do not bow the knee to His authority will not live in that Kingdom. This is talked about in Revelation 2:27 and Revelation 12:5. He will exercise His divine authority and evil will not be permitted.

More threats - do as I say, worship me without questioning or else I’ll come and get you!

Parker231 · 10/08/2026 12:40

LinnetsWing · 10/08/2026 11:45

You have literally just described the 'Christian system' according to you. Do you not understand the term 'system'?

You have a set of beliefs which have no impact whatsoever on people who don't believe them. You thinking I am going to be condemned to Hell by your deity is like me thinking that my DC's imaginary friend is going to decide who goes to heaven or hell.

Agreed - how can you believe something which doesn’t exist

RedTagAlan · 10/08/2026 12:41

Parker231 · 10/08/2026 12:37

More threats - do as I say, worship me without questioning or else I’ll come and get you!

And kill her Children.

So we have gone from "forgive all" to " kill her children".

And gnashing of teeth.

ETA. And none of the Christians will say what happens to her if she does not repent.

MaggieBsBoat · 10/08/2026 12:42

Parker231 · 10/08/2026 12:33

Having wisdom has nothing to do with any god.

Ok ☺️

GentleSheep · 10/08/2026 12:42

RedTagAlan · 10/08/2026 12:01

You just described a system.

The verses you quoted -

Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. (KJV)

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. (KJV)

A man Child. Trump is a man child.

There is a bit there that is relevant to this thread.

Rev 2:20 - 23 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. (KJV)

Kill her children ? Is that what will happen ?

Am I correct in thinking, that for you to have eternal life in your belief system, everyone who is a non believer will be killed by Jesus ?

How did Trump magically appear?

No you're not correct. HTH.

Justmerach · 10/08/2026 12:52

LinnetsWing · 10/08/2026 10:24

Come on, @RedTagAlan -- you know @Justmerach's typical responses from other threads. She googles, and pulls up random websites, 'sermons' etc without the remotest capacity for evaluating her sources, and your (perfectly valid) questions are not going to make her able to think clearly about her religions beliefs, the text they're supposedly based on etc.

The sermon's I used where a church I attended in person, but people persist on writing this. I can't be bothered with the rest and it is not true.
Btw, I gave RedTagAlan an answer and I don't know why they are asking. I have discussed with them before and it seems a bit they may struggle with reading between the lines. So much can happen to Lily between now and when she dies. I don't operate in the manner of telling Christians who I don't that they will go to hell. I have written clearly what the Bible says on this and you can make it out clearly by simply reading between the lines.

LinnetsWing · 10/08/2026 12:56

Parker231 · 10/08/2026 12:34

Saved from what?

Death. I’m fine with the existence of death, and not having to invent an entire system of mental gymnastics involving a long-dead Galilean preacher to convince myself it’s not going to apply to me.

RedTagAlan · 10/08/2026 13:03

Justmerach · 10/08/2026 12:52

The sermon's I used where a church I attended in person, but people persist on writing this. I can't be bothered with the rest and it is not true.
Btw, I gave RedTagAlan an answer and I don't know why they are asking. I have discussed with them before and it seems a bit they may struggle with reading between the lines. So much can happen to Lily between now and when she dies. I don't operate in the manner of telling Christians who I don't that they will go to hell. I have written clearly what the Bible says on this and you can make it out clearly by simply reading between the lines.

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Quote " ...... it seems a bit they may struggle with reading between the lines."

Why is it always about reading between the lines. Just say it straight.

GentleSheep · 10/08/2026 13:07

SorcererGaheris · 10/08/2026 12:22

@RedTagAlan

I do agree that there is, but I think the problem is that you implied that the people you are conversing with in this thread share Christian nationalist views.

"I want to know what the individuals think. The same individuals incidentally, who would like to see everyone else live under their system."

There's no reason to think that all the Christians in this thread have the desire to impose it on all of society. If you were specifically questioning members of far right Christian nationalist parties, what you said would make sense, but it seems more like you're presuming that anyone who is a Christian has an Xtian nationalist viewpoint, which isn't the case.

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Yes I agree with this.

What would 'Christian Nationalism' look like in the UK? Which denomination would it espouse? Catholicism? Orthodoxy? Any of one dozens of Protestant denominations? Plus we have 4 nations in the UK, how would that work? I don't even think it would be a good idea, honestly.

SorcererGaheris · 10/08/2026 13:10

GentleSheep · 10/08/2026 13:07

Yes I agree with this.

What would 'Christian Nationalism' look like in the UK? Which denomination would it espouse? Catholicism? Orthodoxy? Any of one dozens of Protestant denominations? Plus we have 4 nations in the UK, how would that work? I don't even think it would be a good idea, honestly.

@GentleSheep

In the USA, a lot of Christian Nationalism seems to come from certain Protestant factions. That's not to say that Catholics can't be deeply conservative or nationalistic, but from my (admittedly limited) exposure, the Christian Nationalists mostly seem to be Protestants.

I don't know if the same is true of the UK. I don't really pay attention to nationalists of any stripe.

RedTagAlan · 10/08/2026 13:12

GentleSheep · 10/08/2026 13:07

Yes I agree with this.

What would 'Christian Nationalism' look like in the UK? Which denomination would it espouse? Catholicism? Orthodoxy? Any of one dozens of Protestant denominations? Plus we have 4 nations in the UK, how would that work? I don't even think it would be a good idea, honestly.

How about it looks like this :

Christian Symbols Dominate Tommy Robinson’s London Rally Amid Clashes and Counter Protests (cnewsliveenglish.com)

Christian Symbols Dominate Tommy Robinson’s London Rally Amid Clashes and Counter Protests

Christian Symbols Dominate Tommy Robinson’s London Rally Amid Clashes and Counter Protests

London: Tens of thousands gathered in London over the weekend for the “Unite the Kingdom” march led by far-right activist Tommy Robinson, with Christian imagery and nationalist slogans dominating the

https://cnewsliveenglish.com/news/35386/christian-symbols-dominate-tommy-robinsons-london-rally-amid-clashes-and-counter-protests-aj

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:15

Parker231 · 10/08/2026 12:40

Agreed - how can you believe something which doesn’t exist

Then why have you spent 19 pages arguing about something that is a figment of someone's imagination ?!

Makes no sense.

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:16

LinnetsWing · 10/08/2026 12:56

Death. I’m fine with the existence of death, and not having to invent an entire system of mental gymnastics involving a long-dead Galilean preacher to convince myself it’s not going to apply to me.

Then why have you also spent 19 pages arguing about something that is a figment of someone's imagination ?!

Makes no sense.

mids2019 · 10/08/2026 13:20

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pippa-white-tiktok-vicar-church-36701330

I think it's interesting when people mention female vicars as Pippa is a young vicar trying to appeal to gen , nights out with mates, concert going etc. Christians are fun!

However you see how Christianity reveals its restrictions when it comes to dating a reverend pippa is surprised that on dating apps she is ghosted? Surely the guys on dating apps would know they weren't getting a notch on their bedpost after the first date with a vicar! Maybe there are restri ruins for young female vicars when it comes to modern dating expectations that reduces thr numbers of partners in 2026.

'I'm looking for love but get ghosted when men find out my job'

Thoroughly modern cleric Pippa White has a massive TikTok following. She tells of being ghosted on dating apps, and the mixed reactions she gets when posting online

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pippa-white-tiktok-vicar-church-36701330

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RedTagAlan · 10/08/2026 13:22

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:16

Then why have you also spent 19 pages arguing about something that is a figment of someone's imagination ?!

Makes no sense.

I see a discussion/debate on a public forum. You seem to be the only person arguing.

mids2019 · 10/08/2026 13:29

I think one motivation for starting the thread was maybe to explore the position that in 2026 sexual sin means something else than in 1926 and a modern church needs to approach the facts about modern society if it is to continue to gain followers i believe this is probably done by ignoring the topic which most at least C of E clergy do in my experience especially the younger generation. Infidelity is regarded quite rightly as morally wrong as someone gets hurt but is the rest of it any of the churches business?

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MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:30

RedTagAlan · 10/08/2026 13:22

I see a discussion/debate on a public forum. You seem to be the only person arguing.

Chacun a son gout.

LinnetsWing · 10/08/2026 13:32

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:16

Then why have you also spent 19 pages arguing about something that is a figment of someone's imagination ?!

Makes no sense.

I haven’t spent 19 pages arguing anything. It’s five pages on my version of Mn, and I’ve posted ten or twelve times over the ten days since the thread started. Mostly out of amusement at how ill-informed many Mn Christians are about their beliefs. I mean, just own it. Say ‘There’s no proof whatsoever of any of this, but I believe in it anyway, for my own reasons.”

RedTagAlan · 10/08/2026 13:32

mids2019 · 10/08/2026 13:20

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pippa-white-tiktok-vicar-church-36701330

I think it's interesting when people mention female vicars as Pippa is a young vicar trying to appeal to gen , nights out with mates, concert going etc. Christians are fun!

However you see how Christianity reveals its restrictions when it comes to dating a reverend pippa is surprised that on dating apps she is ghosted? Surely the guys on dating apps would know they weren't getting a notch on their bedpost after the first date with a vicar! Maybe there are restri ruins for young female vicars when it comes to modern dating expectations that reduces thr numbers of partners in 2026.

Interesting article thanks.

I wonder if she is a bit more forthcoming in conversation about what happens to people who don't repent ?

" Oh, Jesus kills their children, brings the dead to life so he can kill them again, then throws them into a fire to be tormented for eternity, all with gnashing of teeth".

Best not introduce her to my niece then.

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:34

LinnetsWing · 10/08/2026 13:32

I haven’t spent 19 pages arguing anything. It’s five pages on my version of Mn, and I’ve posted ten or twelve times over the ten days since the thread started. Mostly out of amusement at how ill-informed many Mn Christians are about their beliefs. I mean, just own it. Say ‘There’s no proof whatsoever of any of this, but I believe in it anyway, for my own reasons.”

OK.

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:40

LinnetsWing · 10/08/2026 13:32

I haven’t spent 19 pages arguing anything. It’s five pages on my version of Mn, and I’ve posted ten or twelve times over the ten days since the thread started. Mostly out of amusement at how ill-informed many Mn Christians are about their beliefs. I mean, just own it. Say ‘There’s no proof whatsoever of any of this, but I believe in it anyway, for my own reasons.”

So I guess you won't be spending any more time on this thread with such ill-informed people.
Byeee.
Have a nice life !

RedTagAlan · 10/08/2026 13:41

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:30

Chacun a son gout.

Transubstantiation ?

Eat a bit of human flesh and take a sup of human blood?

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:45

RedTagAlan · 10/08/2026 13:41

Transubstantiation ?

Eat a bit of human flesh and take a sup of human blood?

err no. Your French is a bit ropey it seems.

Translation "To each their own"

What you are trying to say is "Manger un peu de chair humaine et boire une gorgée de sang humain ?"

Parker231 · 10/08/2026 14:04

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 13:15

Then why have you spent 19 pages arguing about something that is a figment of someone's imagination ?!

Makes no sense.

It’s a public forum and debating takes me way back to the Debating Society I was a part of at LSE. Excellent way of learning how to position a statement both for and against.

Should be taught in schools

MrsHubbardhasnoshoe · 10/08/2026 14:16

Parker231 · 10/08/2026 14:04

It’s a public forum and debating takes me way back to the Debating Society I was a part of at LSE. Excellent way of learning how to position a statement both for and against.

Should be taught in schools

So just an intellectual exercise then.

OK.

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